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The Mythos Dimension – Hub Post (Read First)

This is the hub post for the Mythos Dimension.  It contains all the most important base information and links to the detailed posts for each of the components that make up a new dimension.  There are a few details that are important in my mind to this dimension, but a lot of others are things that I came up with to flesh things out.  If you don't like any specific aspect, please do bring it up and I'll be glad to talk about it.

Important Points:

  • Above-ground magical forest with large, detailed, and colorful trees
  • Below ground extensive caverns with interesting things to find
  • New magic system
  • A tragic past to be uncovered
  • New mobs and items

Important Lore:  (Full lore can be found here)

  • Original intelligent inhabitants: Tree Folk, Earth Folk, Water Folk, and Sky Folk.  Only Tree Folk remain.
  • Dark magic corrupted these intelligent races.  Tree Folk that were affected turned into Dryads.  Earth Folk became Stone Elementals. Water Folk are now Mermaids, but despite their name are hostile and monstrous.  Sky Folk became Wyverns.
  • Good Witches of the Tree Folk protected as many of their kin as they could and then defeated the source of the dark magic, but never returned.
  • The good witches ended up in the overworld and bred with the local inhabitants to make the villager race.
  • The name is appropriate because stories about Mythos is the mythos of the villagers.

Portal

How difficult to make it depends a lot on when it should be accessible in terms of progression, and I could see this dimension being as or more available than the Nether or severely end-game.

Here are some thoughts:

  • Should include at least one emerald block (the original good witches sensed that emeralds were important, and that’s why villagers use it as currency to this day)
  • Could include a variety of logs, or just be mostly made of logs
  • Might include an item from the Nether or End to force Mythos’ place in the progression

There is only one portal location in Mythos, much like The End.  However, unlike The End, you return to the location of the portal you entered through.

World Generation

  • Above ground (link)
  • Below ground (link)

Structures (link)

I have three structures planned.  There could be more, but I don't think there should be fewer.  I want this dimension to feel like you should be exploring it to find the cool things, and structures are cool things to be found.

Magic (link)

I have a decently well thought out magic system, but I welcome other ideas.  I specifically tried to do a magic system that wouldn't require a GUI or instruction book to guide you through it but would still be complex enough to have a level of progression and would lead to new and interesting effects being available.

Mobs

All mobs in this dimension take severely reduced damage from overworld weapons, and some are entirely immune.  Those that are immune are neutral until you take some action to anger them or are limited to specific places, and so can be avoided until you are properly geared up.  Normal armor and overworld enchantments also have reduced effectiveness, and enchantments that deal damage do no damage against mobs that are immune to overworld weapons.  None of the mobs here burn in sunlight, but all of the inherently hostile ones follow the normal darkness spawning mechanics.

Overworld weapons are fully effective once they have been combined with a spell.  However, spells can only be applied to the appropriate tier of item.  As such, you need to unlock a diamond tier spell before you can use your diamond gear.

All mobs in this dimension (other than the dimension-hopping endermen) are unique in some way.  Some may be repurposed models, but they should not be identical to an existing mob.

Humanoid Mobs (link)

Other Mobs (link)

Boss

Because the other dimensions each have their own boss (End = Dragon, Nether = Wither), it would make sense for this dimension to also have a boss.  My friend and I came up with a boss idea based on the lore, but it is not a concrete idea.

The boss of this dimension is called The Darkness.  It is the concentrated manifestation of the dark magic that remains in this dimension.  It should have effects that can only be countered by having items form each magic category and can only be countered fully by diamond tier.  So you can fight it best only once you have fully unlocked the spell system.  I don’t know what kind of thing it should drop or what benefit it should have, but something that powerful is probably best decided by the devs anyway.

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    I really like this.  It’s sort of like a fairy tale dimension.  I have some suggestions.

    1. The portal is only able to be activated in the nether.

    2. Magic only has an effect in this dimension.

    3. Try to cut down on the number of new items and ores.

    4. Mobs from this dimension cannot spawn in the overworld, and only good witches can travel through the portals to the overworld.

    5. All mobs with an attack immediately attack hostile mobs from the overworld.

    6. This dimension should be kept separate from the other dimensions as much as possible in order to avoid overpowered items and mobs.

    7. There is no need for new types of trees.  Wood and leaves and saplings just have different colors in this dimension.

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    Thank you for reading and giving feedback.

     

    1.  The portal only being able to be activated in the Nether would be an interesting twist.

    2. As I said in the magic post in response to this, that would make it not worthwhile to do the work to unlock the spells.

    3. If I have too many new items and ores, the devs are more than free to do some judicious pruning.  However, I wanted to make sure to have enough new items to allow for the new spell crafting.

    4. I absolutely agree that mobs from this dimension would not spawn elsewhere.  I would be fine if the mobs can't go through the portal.  Although they should be able to exist in the other dimensions.

    5. Them attacking hostile overworld mobs sounds like a nice feature.

    6. If you think the magic system is overpowered, could you try to explain how, rather than just trying to keep it isolated from everything else?  It goes from being possibly overpowered to basically worthless if it doesn't introduce new abilities to general use.

    7. I don't understand this at all.  New colors on overworld trees would just be incredibly boring.

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    I feel like this should be a magical version of the overworld.  That is why I think magic, magical creatures, and colorful trees should only apply in this dimension.

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    In a lot of respects, I also think of this as a magical/fantasy version of the overworld.  But I'm also thinking about how it would affect gameplay, or not.

    People love the challenge of capturing mobs and moving them between dimensions, for example.  Although I agree absolutely that the Wyverns specifically should not be able to go through the portal, because I assume that Mojang does not want a flying mount in the other dimensions.  And if it can go through the portal, Mythos should be gated after The End by including an End item in the portal (or requiring it to be opened in The End?) to prevent people from having a flying mount in their first Dragon fight.

    Also, as fun as I hope it would be to explore Mythos, I can't imagine the spell system being used much if the spells aren't at all functional in the other dimensions.  The magic issue is why I have it so that the magical recharge on the spelled items happens slower in the other dimensions. There has to be some level of magic force in the other dimensions for enchanted items to work, but it's different from the magic in Mythos. The amber used in all spell crafting acts as a battery and a magical converter.

    None of the other flora that is special to other dimensions is limited to the other dimensions, as long as you have the correct thing to grow it on.  Nether Wort can be grown anywhere as long as it's on Soul Sand, and Chorus Flowers can grow anywhere as long as it's on End Stone.  Either the soil in Mythos is special and you need to have some of that to grow the Mythos trees, or it uses normal dirt.  Either way, it would be a new precedent for them to be unable to grow in other dimensions.  The lack of ability to grow the new trees elsewhere would make them harder to farm for their wood and prevent them from being used as decorative accents or integral parts of builds anywhere but inside Mythos.

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    I dunno… putting direct witch and witchraft references in will cause a lot of parents to pull their kids from the platform and encourage a lot of 'told you so's'.  So you might want to refine the idea a little bit imho.

    I actually like the chance of having a flying mount to fight the ender dragon on, that's a nice twist - similar to the conduit for the ocean monument.  If you notice, you cannot activate a conduit until you have defeated the elder guardians as its impossible to mine enough prismarine until you do so.

    Based on the above, I would say, have a little more faith in the devs, designers and project managers to work it out between them.

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    I hope that wouldn't be the case, but then again, there are people who think Harry Potter is evil, so........  Honestly, I would be sad if fear of people like that caused this idea to be changed.

     

    However, as with almost anything in this idea, I defer to the devs for tweaks and changes.  If having a "good witch" is deemed something that will cause too many problems, the name can be changed.  (the friend who helped me and wrote the lore was the main driving force in them being called "good witches".  They could be called mages, etc.  Although that would also somewhat require dumping the part of the lore where they go to the overworld after they defeat the dark magic.)

    If the actual fact of a magic system is what you're talking about...  There's not much I can do about that.  At least it's not like the Blood Magic mod.

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    I love Harry Potter I made a demention for it too I suggest to choose some animals like I did hippeggriff and dementor you could do giant spiders like Aragon sorry if I spelt that wrong

     

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    The  reason I said it was Harry Potter is because I looked that up and this showed up 

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    I think that adding magic would be a bit overpowered and it would not really feel like vanilla Minecraft if magic was a thing. Maybe just some particles in the air of this dimension that look cool and can either damage or heal you, depending on if the mob that emits it is hostile or passive. Sort of like dragons breath. Otherwise cool idea!

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    All of the other folk people should still be around but with there own structures.

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    The nether should reload faster then anywhere but mythos