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    Servers should be able to opt-out of chat reporting. Additionally, there should be some kind of indication to the player that shows whether a server has this feature enabled or disabled. Some servers may want to be kid-friendly, and that's understandable. But forcing this on everyone and perma-banning Java accounts from multiplayer is going to make the game worse. Please do not force this sanitization on everyone. Give your players a choice.

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    Because this decision was made by Microsoft, not the devs (we assume, it would be even more of a PR disaster if it turned out Mojang staff made this decision), it probably won't get reverted. However, here is how to make it better:

    1. Remove the defamation/impersonation rule. It requires stupidity on the level of not being able to use a computer to believe that a random Minecrafter is some person they claim to be

    2. Be extremely, extremely careful with the imminent harm categories and the harassment and bullying categories. These are most likely to be abused/taken out of context. As an example, someone could say "I'm going to kill you" or "Your dead" in reference to PVP, or, in the case of the harassment and bullying category, somebody who joined an anarchy/factions server could report harassment through threats to grief their base, even though that is kind of the point of the server/game.

    3. Allow some way to disable the feature for servers. If not directly in the config, maybe allow it in some way to server owners that can prove that their server has effective moderation.

    4. Be very, very, very careful about bans. Especially perma-bans. Compared to other games known for banning people willy-nilly (Roblox), users have paid more than $25 for this game. Just mis-banning someone, even if they can appeal will really rub people the wrong way.

    5. Keep to the specific predefined reasons for enforcement action, and if they change, update the community.

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    While playing Minecraft for as long as many people here I am 100% on their side when it comes to the forced logic of "chat reporting"

     

    Bedrock edition has a very poor track record when it comes to this, and applying this same logic to Java edition is awful. Literally nobody wants this, and those who do are saying about adding it as an option, but I guess that's not really plausible. If this update goes through with the awful "Chat Reporting" function, a ton of people are going to get wrongfully banned either because of some kid who thinks that banning someone forever is funny or by others who want to troll big name youtubers on servers.

     

    Even then, people just won't update the game. Sticking to versions they trust like 1.16 or 1.17, or even 1.18 if they want Caves and Cliffs stuff but don't care for the Warden.

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    The owners/moderators of a server should have the final say on who is allowed in and who should be banned. Locking down multiplayer entirely is the same as forcing the player to uninstall the game and download the free trial. This is guaranteed to spawn mods or exploits to get around the bans, rendering them ineffective.

    A more reasonable approach would be to ban the player from Realms and publish a blacklist that private servers could opt in to if they want.

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    Please let private server owners moderate their own servers. Everyone has a different idea of what is considered hate speech, and furthermore adult only anarchy servers do exist where people shouldn't have to worry about their speech at all. It's been made abundantly clear the community as a whole hates this idea.

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    Mojang, PLEASE do not add this to the game. For 13 years, Servers would moderate themselves and it always worked very well. I feel like adding this feature to the game, shows the distrust of Microsoft to the community with moderating servers even if they are "private" on someone's computer playing with your friends. not liking another person on a Minecraft server is a common thing that happens. If a Minecraft server owner thinks that there should not be any filters or punishments for saying things in chat, Microsoft does not need to do this work for them. this is their server, their chat rules. This feature takes the freedom of the players and this is disgusting in my opinion.

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    Please allow for either some way to opt out of reports on a server, or have the reports sent to server admins to determine if it should be sent to Mojang. Either of those are likely to appease server owners.

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    The report system is seriously overstepping boundaries and completely unacceptable. If Mojang has any respect at all for it's consumers and fans who have been playing and supporting this game for over a decade they will remove this entirely. 

    Anything else will be a serious disrespect to everyone and the community will give the same level of respect back.

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    Please don't go through with Chat Reporting, or at least make it something servers can opt out of. Losing the ability to play with friends would totally suck, especially if it's just because someone reported an easy-to-misinterpret message while I was on a public server. Every form of multiplayer other than Realms is community-managed, so I don't see why there needs to be official moderation for non-official servers.

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    I have been playing Minecraft since 2013 and this is the only game that I have played for years
    I've been a Java only player and since I'm an avid modpack player I have never really kept up with updates or anything
    But I see now that has been an unwise decision
    This whole chat report thing and Microsoft imposing account bans is just pure bad decisions and it makes a person wonder if they're doing this to actually spy on people and not for the good of the community at all
    Minecraft has always been about freedom(for me at least) and this feature is just taking away that magic

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    Do not add chat reporting. Leave it up to server admins.

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    Chat reporting isn't necessary- most large servers already have relatively effective moderation systems in place, and what happens in private servers is the business of those who run them. I would say the same for Realms- let owners of servers and moderators of them decide what's allowed- not Microsoft / Mojang. 

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    We pay for our 3rd party servers. You do not.

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    Remove this moderation feature completely.

    We have been doing this on our own just fine for over a decade now, just let us moderate our servers as we always have. This is a violation of our privacy and our ability to moderate our servers as we see fit for our audiences.

    We pay for our servers. We moderate our servers and ban people that break the rules we have deemed as appropriate for our audience. You do not do any of that. If you want to do something like this on your own official servers, then by all means, go ahead, but do not force this upon everyone.

    This is one feature that you definitely shouldn't ignore the community on.

    Don't do this.

     

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    I run a server and I'm very concerned that chat reporting is being added without good consequences for false reporting. We do a great job moderating our own server and would greatly appreciate a way to opt out.

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    Server owners should be able to opt-in and out of allowing 'banned' players to play on their servers.

    It would also be nice to have a way or option for server owners to be able to see or receive player reports as an option so the system could still be used but in the context of individual servers and their owners if the server owner wants to. So a player could be globally banned *from servers that don't allow globally banned players*, server owners that opt-out of the global ban system would still be able to use it to see player reports within their server and ban individuals from their own server using this system.

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    Context is matter for a chat reporting system.

    If we report chat with a specific category, you may have limited access to what the actual context the chat is referred.

    Just too much work.

    For the servers, you have taken the ability to judge from the server admins, and made it your problem. You are expecting these servers to be the same for everyone.

    I just don't see a reason to do that, especially for some small / private servers (not Realms).

    If you want to develop your chat reporting system, go ahead, but please make them optional for server admins.

    Many admins have experiences with the context already, and they know their servers than you.

    However, some of the categories are serious problems. I agree to take action against them.

    Still, an option to disable the report system is highly recommended. You don't know about every servers, server admins do. Let them decide.

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    As an ex-moderator of a prestigious well-known server I wont name here, I think chat reporting is very much needed. I quit the server as it valued absolute free speech, vowing to never ban anyone for speech. This allowed for multiple occasions of players sexually harassing minors with no consequence. This shows the need for proper implementation of moderation, as multiple well-known bad-cookie servers have failed to play their part.
    However, the way it stands as is, where cap-lock messages or a simple argument can be reported, really needs to change and is absolutely silly. It will only clutter the system and loose the trust from the MC player base. Focus needs to be on countering actual harassment (e.g. sexual and racial).

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    please reconsider this update, this could kill Minecraft. I doubt any real human is going to look at said reports, false bans will be inevitable. Plus server owners/moderators should be allowed to decide what's allowed and not allowed. If parents are concerned about negative exposure to their children then enable a chat filter of some sort, or an parental option to turn off chat. Minecraft Java edition has many Adult players who should be able to express themselves however on servers THEY or another player pays for java edition multiplayer servers are third party hosted and not ran by mojang or microsoft and thus players should have full control of what is allowed in terms of gameplay rules.

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    I believe that this update is a step in the wrong direction, as a server moderator, losing the ability to moderate a server with what me and my community find acceptable, is a major problem and can see many servers die. I blelive this update is a step in the wrong direction, in a big way, this Chat Reporting feature in my opinion should be removed in its entirety.

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    Stop turning java edition into roblox or bedrock(kinda the same thing rn). Resources used to handle reports can be used to update game and ACTUALLY make it better. Noone wants some random people to look after them and what they'r saying. Stop ignoring your community

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    Chat reports that go through Microsoft/Mojang are an absolutely terrible idea and I am gobsmacked that it was greenlit by a single person much less a whole dev team. There are an ocean of better solutions available. As a server operator and 10+ year veteran of the game it's downright insulting.

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    This is just censorship they can mod realms all they want but as soon they mod big servers such as hypixel or 2bt2 or god forbid small server with just friends that have bad acts in them it is going to far. also this is going to lead to more accounts getting hacked beacuse ppl are going to want to play mulit and not pay $26.

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    Please at least limit this system to Realms/Microsoft owned servers, and don't make the ban universal! It's simply unfair and unbalanced, especially when this system can be and will be abused greatly. All in all, please don't add this feature. 
    This feature really shows that there is no trust in the community and control is wanted. 

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    i think it's clear to say that a big playerbase is against the new report feature. please, microsoft, don't make us hate you for ignoring what makes minecraft minecraft - the players

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    Hi, This feature is completely unnecessary or allow servers to opt out of it. This can be go wrong in all the ways. Reporter could have misunderstood (Language barrier being the major one), the reviewer will just ban the person who got reported. It's not so easy to understand the context and how people communicate with each other. Some people curse each other for fun, it could be taken completely out of context by another (Which happens daily IRL if we see news) or could be used as "If you don't do this for me, I'll report you". I completely get the purpose of this feature and I love the initiative but this feature is very half baked and let us opt out of it. 

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    Nobody wants this new chat moderation thing, not even reams users. Remove it.
    no halving the less controversial categories.
    no having an opt-out for servers
    no limiting it to realms.
    Remove. It. Entirely.
    Besides that- 1.19.1 looks okay.

  • 63
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    My thoughts regarding chat reporting. When I think about it, I can't imagine where chat reporting would fit in and solve anything. Realms are hosted by Microsoft, great, but realms are invite only, and you can choose to remove people who cause problems. Third party servers are NOT hosted by Microsoft and Microsoft should have NO business determining who is allowed to play on said third party servers nor what is allowed in said servers; third party servers are either small enough that the server owner can block/ban people that they don't want on their server, or are large enough to have a team of administrators and moderators that will do that work.

    Chat reporting can be a major problem because server owners determine what is allowed on the server that they host, if someone else finds the IP and decides they don't like adults discussing adult things on a primarily adult server, players on said server can be banned from ALL online play, completely out of the hands of the server they were on.

    And what will happen when there aren't enough employees to moderate reported chats? A bot is used and limits the chances or likelihood for any appeals? Essentially chasing players away from the game because they can no longer play online with friends? So many problems arise from implementing this idea, with so few things to be improved.

    Make it optional and off by default, or scrap it altogether, there are way too many issues with that concept, especially for servers hosted by third parties.

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    I understand the new ban feature but PLEASE remove the no "yelling" rule. 

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    Let third party servers choose if they want to partake in Mojang issued bans, its unreasonable and overly intrusive to police what people do in their own private servers.