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Let's talk about the latest Pre-Release (1.19.1 Pre-Release 4)

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    Do not implement chat reporting. Get rid of it. Remove it. Virtually no one wants this.
    Also, Mojang, I thought you're better than this.

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    Remove chat reporting please... why remove a moderation system that has worked PERFECTLY for many years with a worse flawed one..? Please... just scrap it...

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    Stop asking us for our feedback if you will not listen to the community. It’s insulting that you pretend to care.

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    What ever happened to Java Edition "staying seperate" from Bedrock? Why are you enforcing a report system despite the fact Java servers have been able to handle moderation perfectly fine up to this point? Why do we need to potentially need to rely on MODS and PLUGINS to disable this feature because of how dangerous and unnecessary it is for Minecraft?

    There have been cases in the past where report systems like this have been abused. May I remind you of MCAdmin? It was an attempt to add a global moderation system back in  where servers which had said plugin would perma-ban you if you were banned on 3 or more other servers running the plugin. It's downfall was caused by Team Avolition, which abused this feature by making their own servers running the plugin and banning random users, including the staff team behind the MCAdmin plugin. The VERY SAME THING could happen with users mass reporting players.

    Take your move, Microsoft.

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    Get rid of chat reporting

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    the "chat reporting" feature has to be the worst feature to ever be added to a game as free and publicly sourced as Minecraft, It's insane how despite the extreme negative feedback from people who have been supporting this company for years this company still thinks its a good idea to add this to its main product, its absolutely disgusting and the future of Minecraft is looking terrible, remove the chat reporting feature for every single future Minecraft Version.

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    My feedback for this is the same as it has been: player chat reporting is a fundamentally flawed system. It is subjective, blind to what happens in-world, far too easily abusable, a potential breach of privacy, and somehow asks us to trust the opaque moderating decisions of a third-party team over the informed, first-hand decisions of individual server mods. Your team is in an objectively worse place to make decisions. This whole thing is at best a farce, and at worse a money sink ripe for you to silently convert over to automation without telling us.

    Remove player chat reporting. Full-stop.

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    Please make the reporting system at least toggleable? I don't wanna need to install third party mods just to disable it.

  • 19
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    No one wants chat moderation. Stop ignoring your player base.

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    As a server owner, this update is outrageous. Before, it was possible to moderate your own server however strictly you wanted to. Now? Now everyone, younger than or older than 18 has to follow Microsoft / Mojang’s own idea of moderation.

    All age groups have the same moderation. Private servers are not under the owner’s control. Realms are not under the owner’s control. False bans will be almost impossible to avoid and will occur to a good portion of the player base.

    If this gets implemented it will mark the downfall of one of the greatest communities on the Internet. Where choices were up to the player base, not a distant corporation who wants to extend the profitable margin to a younger player base.

    Before this I felt that Mojang was involved with and noticed the community. Now? People’s complaints are getting ignored on one of the most controversial updates yet, much like this feedback will likely be ignored as well.

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    This implementation of chat reporting looks like a horrible moderation tool. The only context for the report is the chat log. It leaves players opened to being griefed or even antagonized outside of the game and then reported based on their reaction to related person in game, then potentially banned. Chat reporting is unable to provide accurately context to what is actually occuring in game/server community. A chat moderator will never have the tools needed to resolve any of these issues, especially when you consider the number of people that play minecraft. Someone that moderates their own server is in a significantly better position to deal with these issues because they would be closely involved with their local server community. They would also be able to commit more time per issue within their local server than outsourced moderators that are responsible for moderating all reports received from anyone online seding one.

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    Player report feature is harmful both to players and server admins. Besides, servers offer much better reporting systems than what you have in place here.

    You are literally incentivising people to move towards playing on pirate servers with reporting forcibly turned off via chat plugins.

    Your "highly trained" moderators do more harm than good, as it is evident by many cases of them failing to recognize the context of messages players were falsely banned for.

    As a server admin I received a major backlash from the community after moving to 1.19 because of this feature. Please, remove it. We don't need your corporate control and lousy moderation on JE, we had and will have much better time without it.

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    Nobody wants Microsoft running Minecraft. You are ruining the game we once loved.

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    I’d love to understand why Mojang keeps making new post instead of just using a preexisting post when they all are about the exact same topic but atlas I will probably never get an actual answer.

    To get back onto the main topic I am not a fan of this feature as I do not like the idea of Mojang recording my messages should anyone in a server be reported regardless of if you are actually breaking rules, and having such information be kept for unknown amount of time and use for unspecified reasons. I also don’t like the idea of getting banned from multiplayer entirely even if temporary because from what I’ve seen and experienced with Mojang support it takes forever to get responses and I doubt an underpaid and understaffed moderation team will do any better for a game as large as Minecraft.

    I genuinely don’t even understand why Mojang decided they needed a global moderation systems when they already mention multiplayer is unregulated. Should I be in Mojang position I would focus on giving the community the tools they need to moderate servers on their own which not only takes less resources than global moderation (as server administrators can do the work themselves) but also leads to faster results where people who administer Servers will have added context of what happens on and off the server allowing them to make more information decisions than any moderator Mojang can train.

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    Instead of Microsoft trying to take control of privately owned servers. They could convert the report system as optional tool to help people moderate their own servers by alerting the admins server with in game report system and the server owners could decide on the action they wish to take. Maybe have it only alert Mojang if the infraction is something that is illegal in the hosted country(eg.doxxing).

     
    Or just get rid of the report system entirely. Your not fooling anyone ,Microsoft is trying to control a narrative of a discourse space  like every social media platform does. 

    So if a Mojang employee actual reads this , please do speak with your higher ups and petition to get the chat report system removed or replaced. Please do not let the trust of you have worked so hard to build up over 11 years go to waste by one foolish decision.

     

    Sincerely, a player who has loved and played this game for over 11 years. 

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    Please remove the reporting System or at least make it optional.
    We already have the option to mute people and I don't want your moderators to decide if I want to read the swearing of other, I dont want your moderators to decide what is to much, I don't want your moderators to decide who is able to play on my server.
    You have already proven how flawed the system is on the Bedrock Edition. DON'T INFECT JAVA WITH IT. I dont want that PaRiTy.

    I know you only care about sales, but do you want to advertise a "friendly comunity" or a "muted comunity with occasional random bans".

    It's simply a bad idea!
    And I'm not the only one who thinks so, so for once keep your word and listen to the comunity!

    Please!

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    For every comment praising your mediocre moderation bot (let’s be honest, there’s no way for your team to manually moderate the chat from millions of players) there are well over a hundred more criticizing it.

    If this goes through I’m never touching multiplayer again. I didn’t pay for spyware.

    I have been here since 2011, but this might be where I get off.

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    I know some times unpopular features can make the game better, such as changing old chunks to add terrain under them, like in 1.18, but this feature is not going to be beneficial to the game. The permanent global bans have been added in Bedrock Edition, and the players hate it. The majority of the community has proven to be against this change, this includes major youtubers, like: TheMisterEpic, FitMC and Antvenom. It seens like every update with the number 9 gets controversial, starting with Beta 1.9. Many people will be unfairly banned, and it would be better having 10 false negatives than 1 false positive.

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    Make it so that if you are 13 years or up you can turn off profanity filters. If people want to have PG-13 servers in Minecraft. they should be able to. Or flat out remove this feature. Stop making java edition like bedrock. No true Minecraft fan would rather play bedrock then java. Bedrock=trash Java=good.  

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    Moderation "tool"? Moderation "abomination" would be more accurate. There are far too many flaws with this: from the fact that it's fixing a problem that didn't need fixing, to the large margin for error, to the dire consequences of said errors, and to the sheer number of global moderators that would be required for such a system. It's doomed to fail. And I think Mojang should know this all too well, considering the influx of feedback. If only Microsoft were willing to listen. (EDIT: I don't even think this on Microsoft at this point. I really do think you guys at Mojang just aren't willing to listen to the feedback.)

    If this """""feature""""" makes it into the final 1.19.1 release, then 1.19.0 will be the last version I'll be sticking with for the foreseeable future - if I choose to continue playing the game at all. The new content that will be in future releases is absolutely NOT worth the downgrade that this unwanted addition entails.

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    I will refuse to play on any server that doesn't disable this with a plugin/mod

    And if you make it impossible to disable I will report hundreds of comments as a hobby, all of them valid gray-area comments that could be perceived as pushing it so as to not abuse the system, just to make moderation as expensive as possible.

    Naturally anyone who actually clearly breaks the rules I will refuse to report to Mojang, on principle.

    I run a server with a few hundred active players and it isn't cheap, maybe I'll make this my cue to quit Minecraft after over a decade, I wonder how many would not bother playing anymore if my server was gone.

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    please don't add chat reporting, you're going to scare everyone away from multiplayer!

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    I’d like to make it clear I play bedrock but I feel this might effect YouTubers, Twitch streamers, and other people who play Minecraft for a living. So for 1.19.1 in Java I’m concerned about incorrect bans and abusive chat reporting. Also the option to turn off moderation for private servers would be really helpful for friends who like to mess around and write stupid things on signs. Thank You.

     

    -Concerned Player,

    HiHelloIts

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    Please! Don't force this upon us, private servers have moderated themselves from the start, you'll be inflicting irreversible damage to Minecraft multiplayer, actively discouraging people from exploring new servers.

    What about people taunting other players into swearing? What about complex context that exists on specific servers? What about problems that come to exist if you take in mind that the community speaks more languages than just English?

    This will cause more problems than it will solve.

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    Pro tip (I am not an expert): Let server (or realm) owners CUSTOMISE their moderation, AND you should NOT ban players from all Multiplayer servers and Realms in general.

    Please or Minecraft might DIE.

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    Get rid of chat reporting 

    and fix cave biomes they are so boring based on this planetminecraft datapack better cave gen that I made sorry no link

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    Everybody hates the new reporting "feature".

    Please stop trying to convince us we want it

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    Having a report feature is a good thing, but the current implementation in Minecraft Java Edition restricts the control that server hosts have over their own servers for the sake of security and pushes a lot of responsibility off of server hosts and onto Mojang and Microsoft, this could be a liability problem, there needs to be a robust and easy to access appeal process that allows players to give context to the reported message and the server they were on, and rather than preventing banned players from accessing multiplayer, add the player to an official ban list, allow private server hosts to enable or disable the official ban list via the server config file, this would enable or disable player reporting for their server as well, add an icon next to the server list showing which servers have the ban list enabled or disabled, a parental option could be added to prevent a child from joining a server with the official ban list disabled, which would be enabled by default on underage accounts, this would put responsibility back in the hands of server hosts, players, and the parents of children, while also protecting the younger Minecraft community members from inappropriate content in multiplayer.

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                   I am an administrator for a SMP server that has been around for almost 6 years, and have been playing Minecraft for more than 8 years as of writing this. I see why Mojang is implementing this, but banning players from ALL ONLINE SERVERS for just one bad comment is wrong. First of all, third party servers are not owned by Microsoft, and therefore should not be subject to their bans. Second, people create servers that are for adults only, so they have different policies than Microsoft's. Third, banning people from playing online and in single player (even though they paid for the account) quite possibly violates many consumer rights laws, leaving this update to the possibility of legal action. Finally, servers have been handling chat moderation since they were first created, with little to no problems occurring. Along with different server policies and punishments, if several people decided to report me (resulting in my ban from online play),I would no longer be able to operate and play on the server THAT I OWN. Overall, throughout my many years of playing, I have loved many of Minecraft's updates, but this one upsets me and many others.

    Thank you for your time and attention,

                                                         -LegoMasterV

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    "outdated server" error screeen - my windows 10 PC won't install the latest update. Instead it still has 1.19.2. My friend has the latest update and the he can't access my world - it says "outdated server." How do I get the latest update on my PC? My operating system is up-to-date.