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Copper - Filling the Gap Between Stone and Iron

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    I really love the artwork but sadly I can't help but feel that this is little more than an inferior version of iron. I'm open to arguments to the contrary.

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    I don't think the copper tools should have any detrimental effects from contact with water since iron tools don't rust either.

    That tarnished copper block is gorgeous, though.  So I would definitely be in favor of a mechanic related to obtaining those.

    I also like the idea of having a second option for making hoppers.  If you have a low-volume hopper line you could choose to make it out of copper and save your iron.

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    Nox cgt commented
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    @MacchuPicchu96 Copper is meant to introduce a much bigger part of the player's progression in the game, as Copper would be used to make the player's first alloy, Brass, which would then go on to introduce new alloys made of other metals and materials.

    @ClayGoddessSari The post has been updated to include a link to my other post about Zinc, which mentions that Iron would rust as well.

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    I see, that makes sense.

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    jakub murthy commented
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    those blocks look really good, and the copper hopper would unlock so much potential as slowing the items could be great for many redstone contraptions. the only thing is that its hard to make copper not to look like wood or leather items but you did a great job with the textures, maybe it could be slightly more orange though.

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    Like how you include the oxidize, If they do make it, the ore is also green.

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    I've always wondered why copper wasn't in the game already. Also I would like to see Copper Silver and Gold coins. Maybe to be acquired from a machine that presses metals and gems into coins and jewels.

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    Nox cgt commented
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    @Wolftopia Thank you for pointing the generation point to me! I don't know why I originally said it would be rarer than iron; I must have initially planned on also suggesting iron being significantly less common as well.

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    Plus copper is THE most popular mod metal. I can write at least 10 grand mods that add copper. 

    Copper is a very good idea to use in advanced redstone stuff (like transferring signal past 15 blocks with no repeaters etc), medieval age decoration, BELLs, etc. 

    Its kinda the same as iron game-wise, just an alternative with great decoration potential and possible redstone applications. Plus you can make coins to trade with villagers as an emerald alternative for cheaper stuff like coal, food, blocks.

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    I think we should also add Silver Materials

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    Malloon Tarka commented
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    I like how the blocks look, but I am against having copper being a progression tier.

    The reason copper and later bronze were used for tools before iron was twofold: Copper could be smelted at lower temperatures than iron and iron was too brittle to be used for tools. Only later when steel was discovered did iron become the norm.

    Minecraft doesn't have temperatures, nor does it use real-world chemistry (ignoring the educational part of Bedrock). The methods of acquiring iron and copper would be the same, the only difference would be making iron rarer. But since so many objects need iron to make them, this would increase the grind, or else make iron farms even more necessary. Neither is a good idea. The shift from iron to diamond is caused by a shift in gameplay, ie. mining higher up vs. mining at lava level. The shift from copper to iron wouldn't be.

    A response to this might be that all iron objects could have copper counterparts, but adding multiple versions of an object where one is a strait up upgrade to the other is a bad idea unless it informs gameplay. This wouldn't.

     

    In summary, I'd be fine with adding copper ore and others to add nice looking blocks to the game, I'm against making it a progression tier.

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    Kent Omandac commented
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    In the next 1.15 PC Update for Minecraft: Java Edition, Copper Ingot, Copper Ore, Block of Copper, Copper Pickaxe, Copper Axe, Copper Sword, Copper Shovel, Copper Hoe, Copper Helmet, Copper Breastplate, Copper Leggings, & Copper Boots will be confirmed in the next update, same thing for Bedrock Edition

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    Bartham commented
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    this man did his homework! absolutely ADORE this idea! well done good sir!

    on the topic of steel wool, i think that perhaps, due to lack of other uses, and since axes now can debark trees, using axes would be better.

    on the topic of your mockup textures, I think a nice sheen on the copper, more orangeish than the dull brown, would 1, distinguish it from wood tools, and 2, the oxidized copper block? nice-looking, but maybe lean into the bluish teal side of it a little more? I like the design on the block though, it works well and looks interesting,a great accent block, and with concrete requiring water contact, a really cool idea!

    on the topic of the oxidization of the items, it's an interesting game mechanic to "workaround" so to speak, but it's more of a novelty than a real mechanic because you could just switch to iron armor, progression is too quick for this to be an issue. I also disagree with making iron lower, but I agree with making copper more common than iron. 

    and when it comes to Redstone, I think they should lean into it way more! replace all the iron Redstone recipes with copper, including hoppers, I don't like the idea of a "slower hopper" that is replaced, the progression cycle is too quick for that, I think gray hoppers should just turn into copperish hoppers

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    UitSBJJ commented
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    What if copper could repeal certain mobs, like the creeper?

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    Automachina commented
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    I actually like this idea, however my perspective is a bit different. I think that copper should be a "pragmatic" progression tier from stone to iron, as well as an early game loot item because iron shouldn't be that.

    It should be a bit like gold, being fast mining, but low durability, forcing the player to adopt it only as a faster means of obtaining iron for sustainability. It should replace iron in temples/ruins such that the player doesn't just get stacked with iron just from looting the surface of the overworld. And yeah, it should be an alternative to iron in some technical blocks, just to ease the burden off iron.

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    Danny Ciccone commented
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    This is pretty cool honestly! They should definitely add this to the game.

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    chubarian commented
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    They should add tin and just make bronze as the metal to fill the gap. It's similar to copper but makes more sense to construct armor and weapons out of.

    Historically copper was not really used this way, and the ages were as follows:
    Stone Age - Bronze Age - Iron Age

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    Dragon214y3r commented
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    Add copper, plus rusting to ever rustible item in game

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    DylansLab04 commented
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    <3 it. But one thing the copper ore could be called malachite maybe and to go with the cave update iron ore could be called hematite

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    Asmodeus13O commented
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    Copper should be an essential metal for this game for two reasons, early on, it fills the gap between stone and iron and helps make a more balanced progression system, and later, it should be used to enhance redstone effects such as a block of copper allowing a redstone charge to skip a space. Everyone who mines now walks around with 1 iron pickaxe and a bunch of stone pickaxes - needing copper to mine iron will make stone obsolete which is what should happen as you progress. Copper Buckets that can store milk or water, but not lava would be very helpful early on also. Copper armor should be more scale like however, with gaps covering leather that is color-able.

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    Hori873 commented
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    Some other items that could be made out of copper:

    • Copper Door: Zombies cannot break it, but players can open it without redstone.
    • Copper Pressure Plate: Detects weather changes (gives a redstone signal while it's being rained upon)
    • Copper Trapdoor
    • Copper Bars - decorative

    I'd also like a Copper Lantern variant as a decorative option but then we'll also need a Gold variant.

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    I believe this would add a great new aspect into the game, allowing players to have better progression with redstone. This would make redstone contraptions more popular and expand them to people who don't have good sources of iron in their worlds. This is a great idea and I would love to see Mojang make it happen!

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    Can you add an illustration of the non-oxidized ore please?

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    i have been wanting this for so long. i was going to post this until i saw yours. i want this so bad. i have so much trouble finding iron in the start. the only thing i would say is that it should have no redstone use, because it makes redstone too easy, and it should also be found in loot chests as well. but, i still love this so much!

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    After a lot of thought, I have found a very useful niché to copper blocks. We have already got a lot of materials to make weapon and Armor along with addition to netherite. I think copper blocks can have a great redstone use; replace redstone dust. It can carry redstone upto 30 blocks. It can take both hard and soft redstone signal from all sides. It does not create, and give any block light update, so it is server friendly. And to end with its usefulness, you can create copper slabs! This would be like heaven to redstoners, having untouched redstone lines running directly above and below watch other.

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    agent Foxy92 commented
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    I think copper should instead be used in new redstone components recipe as well as gold

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    Good idea, but I disagree with the oxidising idea. It's not Minecrafty enough and also in that case iron should oxidise too, which would be a pain for players.

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    ChipsNachos commented
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    I agree that copper would be a good addition to the game, but I do not think it should be used for tools/armor and especially not part of the primary progression.  Yes, it would be more realistic, but it's just making the game more complex when honestly, the current system is fine.

     

    Instead, I think copper could have other uses.  I agree that it should be worked in with redstone systems as copper is used with electricity a lot in real life.  It would be great as a decorative block as well, of course.

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    truggles1 commented
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    It should be yellow in the mineral cracks

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    truggles1 commented
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    And dark brown ore would be tin ore which could be smelted into tin which could be smelted with copper to make bronze which is more powerful than copper at 200 durability points.