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    This report system is purely flawed and doesn't fit into the Minecraft Java way of doing thing and has already spark much controversy around it in the community with the largest message of it all being Negative

    This system isn't necessary on third-party Minecraft servers, if there were official first party Minecraft server on Java or it we're an option to enable this feature I'm sure there would not had been so much issue with this feature but taking control away from server owners and private server owners has only caused chaos.

    People have already began developing plugins and Mods to counter act this "feature" due to its Negative reception and as such I and many others believe the feature should removed all togther or should only be in realms due to them being Minecraft hosted servers.

    I personally dislike this report system idea all together as a person who has a private server I think that the owners and Moderators should be allowed to pick their own rules and enforce them as they see fit, this system entirely underminds the whole process and will of the server and its owners by forcing us to have features that frankly nobody in the community wants.

    Truly if this feature is added into the game I will definitely not be happy with it and will do anything I can to get around it, as for others I hope you have a great day and enjoy yourselves.

    Please Minecraft, remove this chat report system as it will only be abused and used in toxicity as well as just hurt Java edition.

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    chat report = bad 

     

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    This entire thing is ridiculous. I host a world that is like a server on the bedrock edition of minecraft and your telling me, me and my friends can get banned for stuff we say to eachother? There is also the fact that you guys can see books and signs which is kind of creepy of you ask me. World/realm owners can ban or kick bad actors. We can moderate ourselves, we don't need some multi-billion tech company managing how we play the game.

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    Please remove this feature. Nobody needs this. Nobody wants this. The community has been doing fine moderating servers for over 10 years now! All this will do is ban people for joking with their friends in a private world.

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    Please listen to your community and remove the chat reporting system. Minecraft is a sandbox game, where we are the ones to make the rules. This goes against everything Minecraft is supposed to be.

    And don't even go into something that has to do with "we already agreed to this."

    You can't expect, and you already know, that most people playing the game are not lawyer, let alone even read the terms and conditions. You could put anything you want in there. It does not mean it is going to happen.

    "By purchasing Minecraft, you dedicate all of your finances to Mojang"

    This would not happen even if you put it in there, and neither should this. Take away the system altogether.

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    I’m going along with the bandwagon because we need lots of voices to be heard.
    I’m just going to to start by stating that chat moderation by Mojang and Microsoft is an outrageous idea and will cause so much more harm than hurt. I understand where you are coming from in saying that kids play this game, but as has already been stated by the community thousands of times just about every server in all of Minecraft Java has its own very well run moderation system. If someone chooses to join a server that doesn’t have chat moderation that is their fault, especially considering the fact that they should be more eager to join servers like Hypixel rather than 2b2t. That brings me to the next point. Just imagine what this system will do to players who play on small private servers/realms or servers like 2b2t which specifically have no chat moderation rules? What if I just want to play Minecraft on a small server with my friends where we mess around and say whatever we want? Obviously that will not be possible with this new system. Finally, I am disgusted by the banning system. I can possibly understand being banned from multiplayer. If I say something dumb on a public server, sure I can be banned for a few days. Being banned from realms seems really dumb, however, especially considering the fact that your subscription is not cancelled when you are permanently banned. That seems to me like a really scummy way to make some extra dollars from your players. (Continues)

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    Congratulations to Microsoft for finding a way to kill one of the gaming world's biggest success stories! Yup, chat reporting bans on people minding their own business on their own private servers, the inability to access your own game? Really?! This way lies madness! It is obvious that Microsoft neither needs nor values the amazing gamer community that has kept Minecraft relevant all these years. Please remove this fascist feature from java edition!

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    By far the worst feature ever.

    Chat reporting and banning should be removed entirely.

    "Minecraft : Java Edition will stay exactly the same, and we'll continue to update ans support it in the future."

    This feature is not "supporting" Minecraft, it's just the beginning of the end.

    TLDR : Disappointed AH, Chat report = Downfall of Minecraft

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    This change sucks. What if (hypothetical) me and my friends are playing on an smp. Some guy griefs our base, so I say

    "I'll kill you."

    Now, with these new changes that DONT provide context to the conversation, this little gremlin reports me. I read up on the dumb report reasons, and this would probably get me banned for multi-player permanently. In conclusion, I won't be able to play the game I spent 30 dollars on. Please, for the love of God, fix this.

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    Please disable chat reporting. For people who want to disable it their is a server-side mod for both fabric and forge that disable chat reporting. Or rather it disables chat signing which means you can’t get banned.

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    do not add this feature.

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    I think private servers should have an opt out, not only for the privacy issues, but I see it causes a problem that the players and taking away their voice. I agree we need better moderation tools I propose 1. Private servers can opt out. 2. Leverage Microsoft’s ai tools for sentiment detections for filtering chats. 3. Server operators can can submit chats upon review. I believe there are other options and just pushing the people that love to play this game away is unacceptable, and starting to be seen as inevitable. Their are and will be whole generations of players that will have their first and probably most notable online interaction here, and I believe it should be coached not a message that says “stay away” Make tools to help sever operators manage this. Realms servers that makes since there isn’t all the tools that Java servers have available it’s been abused. In the history of gaming these features have cut the community’s surrounding.I believe as a community if we know the extent of the problem we can help offer a better solution. But silencing others based off only a small percentage of context and not all of it is in an issue, you communicate through actions in the game not just through chat. Which more so makes me lean to it should be opted out by default. But when accepting Eula it should be an option and parental controls should allow players to not connect to non Microsoft lined servers. Like you already do.

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    I know this won't make a difference, and that the staff reading this (even if they do) don't have any power to change things themselves. So, mojang employees, please tell your higher-ups that the entire community doesn't like this!

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    We PAY for our own servers not YOU we decide the rules for those not YOU. We have been able to monitor chat for OVER A DECADE without your “assistance” why would we want it now. This screams red flags and if it’s implemented it’ll start a massive down spiral for the game

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    The chat reporting is a horrible idea that must be removed completely. As a long time player of this game I can tell that this feature is the one thing that will convince me to stop playing Minecraft for good

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    you do realize this is going to ruin your game and nobody will play on this game if you don't fix or even get rid of the banning system this is stupid and we all want this thing to end

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    Please do not implement chat reporting for third-party servers. Those servers already have their own admins and server rules and can manage themselves. If there is a disagreement or worse a player can separate themselves from the one server and still join many more to find the right fit. Doing this is not only overstepping into the privacy and community management of independent servers but also setting up Mojang for a moderation nightmare.

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    (Continuing thread)
    I would also like to talk about the possibility of getting banned from single player. This is downright outrageous. Who am I going to be offending in single player, myself??? If I am banned from Multiplayer, realms, and single player, permanently, I literally cannot play Minecraft ever again and the 26 dollars that I spent on the game were useless. In addition, you have absolutely no ability to fathom the number of false bans and reports that are going to happen. Imagine if a YouTuber, such as, say, Technoblade hops on to Minecraft one day and sees that he has been banned from Minecraft because of that one time he said “Get destroyed, orphans” in a private server. Now, this is a bad example because it would be obvious that he would just be unbanned, but if this happens to every Minecraft YouTuber, which is absolutely possible and even likely, you are going to have an even angrier community on your hands. There are so many other ways that an ordinary player like me could get false banned. If I am on a PvP server, such as Hypixel, and I say to a guy in chat “I am going to murder you” it wouldn’t mean very much because that is normal in a PvP game. However, the moderation staff could and would take this the wrong way and ban me for threatening. I hope you can see the many flaws with this system. Unfortunately, false reports and bans are something that you cannot fix, it just happens. (This thread continues)

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    Completely banning people from multi-player entirely for any reason is not ok it should be up to the person paying for the server to be open to decide what is and isn't allowed. The idea of online interactions being unrated works well because it's true for any game with online chat and if many of those other platforms banned people for things they say in text or voice chat there would be no players. Overall I think the thing Microsoft/Mojang fails to see is that this isn't a kid's game it's a game for everyone meaning there will be contexts in which things the new system will ban you for would be ok to have in chat because not all servers are or need to be the idea of family-friendly Microsoft/Mojang have set out to make them.

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    If this chat-reporting "feature" really gets implemented, I'll never play again. I am going to delete the game and tell my friends to do the same. We are just gonna play other games or knock-off versions....

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    This is truly the worst thing you can do to Minecraft. First of all, Minecraft is a sandbox game, and we should be able to do anything we want. Why should swear words be censored in Minecraft single player, like who are we going to offend, ourselves? Another big problem with this is that servers have their own moderation system for years now and it has been working well and I feel like this system is going to cause a lot of false bans. There will be a lot of out of context bans like if I say "I'm getting really high" when I'm building to the sky limit, but the mods may see that as drug use or something along those lines. I know the you developers are not in control of this, but this won't help the game or make it more family friendly.

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    The report system is a really bad idea due to several reasons

    1. Its unnecesserilly overkill.                This could be taken out of context and and someone could break the rules without realising when migrating servers into newer versions and should be completely optional

    2.diffrent types of community and servers:         Since its all ages some servers are completely fine with swearing and some specific servers outright allow anything to do and say in the chat system (to be specific anarchy type servers)

    3. the rule system could easily be abused by making things out of context and its already obvious how easy it is to get falsebanned even without getting reported

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    (Continuing thread) The best way to fix the system in my opinion (and the entire community unanimously agrees) is to remove Mojang and Microsoft-run chat reporting and banning entirely from Java and Bedrock. Servers have their own chat reporting and banning systems anyway which have worked for ten years. Realms are meant for friends to have fun together and mess around, not for Mojang and Microsoft to step in and ban players. And single player is something that should be guaranteed to the player as it would be stupid to ban players from it. This is my opinion and I would be shocked if anyone disagreed with any of my major points. Please take this into account.

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    Third party hosted servers should not be forced to deal with interference in how they moderate their space, if not removed, we should be allowed to opt out of this feature on our servers. Admins like myself, are all that third party servers need, real people part of the individual server's community. Not only is this a huge overstep, and blatant disregard for the communities we have built, by forcing us to work with an unwelcome system. It takes away the choices of Server Owners and Admins on how to run their servers, their private servers.

    This is understandable with Realms, that is a space hosted specifically by Microsoft and Mojang. Privately hosted servers on third party sites should only be subject to the rules put in place by the hosting site, and the rules of the Server Owner. No one else, and certainly not a system un-specialized for the individual server's needs.

    Minecraft is not like Xbox Live, a universal ban will not work here because each server is its own environment. A blanket law will only result in unjust bans, and the destruction of communities.

    Minecraft servers have been run by the community since their very creation, by a member of the community. To step in now after we have been self governing for over a decade, is not only an unwelcome change to this community, but an invasive one that stands to be abused. We do not need your micromanaging, nor do we want it, keep your moderation to servers that Microsoft/Mojang hosts, and away from player run servers.

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    Please do not implement this, this system has proven to be extremely flawed through Bedrock, as well as most run through third party servers, such as Apex, with their own rules and moderation teams that help make sure nothing like this happens. Minecraft on Java has always been a more free community, especially with the likes of 2bt2, and what I can see this update doing, would be that it would force people to not expand to that update by simply stalling their game on the last update before this report feature was implemented. As we can choose to play 1.12.2, which means access to preupdate conditions and rule values. 

    The only thing you will be accomplishing in this update would be dividing the Minecraft Community further, and more than likely, increasing its already negative image that has been built up.

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    This chat moderation feature might be what kills Minecraft

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    1. Please keep third party servers out of the chat moderation system. Let the communities moderate their servers on their own. Implement it on realms if you really want to, but keep third party servers away.

    2. Bans should never affect single player worlds, ever.

    3. This change will potentially discourage players from using the text chat feature in fear of false positives, which will result in less interaction between players. In a creative game such as Minecraft, this is a big issue. And I believe you can understand why.

     4. Java editions should not be affected by this system. You promised you wouldn't change the Java edition. You also said that migrating our accounts to a Microsoft account wouldn't bring problems to us. As you see, it was a lie (a lie we expected, but a lie nonetheless). Now we got a Bedrock feature enforced into us, the Java edition players.

    I know you won't listen to me or any of the others also asking you to roll back this feature. But I have to try.

    There are dozens of bugs you should be fixing in Bedrock, yet you decided to spend time and money in implementing this feature that will only cause problems and division. Classic corporate move. I'm disappointed.

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    Please, do not implement these draconian Big Brother like censorship features into the game. The flaws in the system and subpar moderation make this reporting system unfair and make it easy for false reports to fall through the cracks. The fact that on Single-player worlds, these apply, is madness. It's just me on there. I've paid you the money. I can't harm others when there's nobody around to harm. And on paid servers, we pay to keep them up. We do that, not you, so when you apply these twisted guidelines to something that we continue to pay for, that's ridiculous. Listen to the community, because we hold the key to your popularity, so if you silence and ignore us, we can do exactly the same to you and your game.

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    This new chat feature sucks.
    Me and my Friends play in a bedrock realms for a long time ago, and we all are adults just playing minecraft for fun. What concerns me the most is that we can't talk about sensitive topics as adults do because the heavy censorship in a private realms that we're paying for doesn't allow us to. Bedrock version also has a bad reputation about ghost muting players, and even I got ghost muted on minecraft and till this day it's still going.

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    Minecraft is a sandbox in both the gameplay sense and play style. Adding chat moderation will only go to strip away what this game was designed to be.