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Revert the 26.2-pre-2 changes on Attribute Swapping

On the latest snapshot you can no longer quickly swap from one item to another and retain its attributes/use case. This change not only patched PvP techniques (breach swapping, lunge swapping, ...) used by tens if not hundreds of thousands of players, but it also makes performing actions quickly much more difficult.

For example, a use case of the previous item switching system was a technique often referred to as 'Breach Swapping'. By holding a fully charged Netherite Sword with an attribute of 8 attack damage you would quickly switch to a Mace with the Breach IV enchantment and click. What this would do is take the attack damage of the sword and practically apply it to the Mace, making the Mace deal the sword's damage while retaining its properties of performing smash attacks and being enchanted with breach.

This 'bug' is no longer simply an error in the game's code, as its been in the game for so long that it has been accepted by players as a staple of the game rather than a problem that needs to be fixed.

This still stands after 26.2-pre-3, since they claim that Attribute Swapping will be patched in future snapshots.

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    This feature should be kept as a “feature” like many other bugs that was kept. This feature is not at all game-breaking and does not give advantage as much at all. The argument of it being unfair is like saying competitive player should not perform the technique they learn that separate them from casual / less experience.

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    revert it!

     

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    if mojang adds this im never playing any of the new versions ever

     

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    Pls keep swap pls

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    I think it should just not follow through as this kills almost every critical component. Shield breaking, stun slamming, spear dash, breach swap, spear axe mace swap, and so much more. This would lead the pvp community furious and aswell as kill it a little if not all of it.

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    Minecraft is not only the game for casual players, these type of mechanism discovered by community and then widely accepted and used in one of the biggest community of minecraft will heavily impact how the whole community will grow.... it was a skill based ability and very hard to master , just keep it otherwise a whole community might loose faith in mojang which is already going through hard time rn due to controversies among the top in this community , im a builder main and pvper 2nd but this seems like limiting creativeness and discarding hours of practice done by the playerbase to master and develop this feature more 

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    dude, this is a staple of minecraft pvp now. add it back or ENTIRE PVP COMMUNITY WILL RIOT

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    Removing atribute swapping from PvP, is like removing pawns from Chess. 

    like bye bye to 90% of the skill expression

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    the biggest reason i play Minecraft so much is pvp. especially spearmace and ely mace, both of those are strongly dependant on attribute swapping and i honestly wont update my gane if it means losing this

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    As a PVP player, this change actually makes me more annoyed than 1.8-1.9 combat system. Many strategies in mace, such as stun slamming, breach swapping, or even lunge swapping in spear mace are gone. Entire PvP gamemodes are practically erased from this one change (ex: spear mace). People spend hundreds if not thousands of hours training and they kinda just remove it. One notable example is a  person named Dol9hin. He is a youtuber with over 250,000 subscribers, and his spear mace videos catch millions of views. This change can suprisingly, change some people's paychecks just because mojang thinks that one bug, that has been in the game for YEARS is too op. This bug is shown in videos like the Unstable SMP, which is minecraft's largest series running today. The "bug" is shown  when FlameFrags uses spear mace to defeat the law, which gets tens of millions of views. Personally, I have spent at least a hundred hours  practicing spear mace because of how fun it was to attribute swap.

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    True, I use attribute swapping mainly when I disable a shield from sword to axe which I use frequently use and so does the majority of the PVP community, I just don't see it as a bug that needed fixing from my perspective.

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    Attribute swapping is core to pvp and barely affects any casual users. No mob uses a shield in normal gameplay and players are unlikely to swap to an item that actually uses attribute swapping without knowing about it beforehand. The spear still drains a lot of hunger when used fast and the mace swapping doesn't affect normal mobs much because they are 2 shot without strength no matter whether you swap or not. For pvp, this makes difficult techniques like shield stunning, stun slamming, and lunge swapping not just easier, but possible. These techniques take lots of practice and are a form of skill expression for many top papers.

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    This would kill so many widely used PvP techniques :(

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    its a big part of the game just how stuns were i dont think it should be removed

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    The change Mojang made really makes no sense to me.. if the backlash from 1.9 made them so hesitant to fully integrate the content from the combat snapshots into the base game then why would mojang radically rewire current PvP by 'patching' this feature which has become a staple of PvP, especially while we are in a Minecraft era dominated by PvP centered content? This upsets a large portion of the playerbase with no obvious upside that I can see. 

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    PvP will die without attribute swapping bro

     

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    And bring back spear reach on bedrock

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    I need to be able to quickly swap, also in bedrock with some of my friends that only have console🙏🙏

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    This would ruin minecraft pvp. Me and Jimmy will have to have a walk with you.

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    I am begging bro

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    Honestly hard disagree, PVP is a small section of the game, and attribute swapping ignoring all of Mojang's intentionally designed cooldowns is A bug through and through. I wouldnt mind if it stayed for maces and other weapons, so long as the spear itself had it removed, as the cooldown ignoring is egregious for that particular weapon.

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    The old was way better change it

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    The removal of attribute swapping and other things with crystal pvp just ruins pvp as we know it

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    KEEP THE SWAPS PLEASE

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    Attribute swapping is a core feature of PVP now, almost like using webs to stop movement. It has been here long enough that removing it would fundementally change PVP.

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    Near every area of PvP is effected by this, and if this change happens, a large portion of that community will probably stay in 26.1 or lower versions, or, of course, use modifications to the game to add back the 'bug'.

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    They need to bring it back this completely ruins all forms of pvp and will probebally lead some people to ragequitting pvp

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    What do we call a "bug" (which this is not a bug) when it's been around for a long time? A FEATURE

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    Attribute swapping has been in the game for so long that removing it would actively hurt the game. Especially PvP, without attribute swapping almost all of the higher skill techniques would get removed and the general skill ceiling and fun of that aspect of minecraft would be significantly lowered. So please vote on this so that it wont get removed hopefully..

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    People have spent hundreds of hours perfecting their playstyle around this mechanic, removing it is like spitting in their face.