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Revert the 26.2-pre-2 changes on Attribute Swapping

On the latest snapshot you can no longer quickly swap from one item to another and retain its attributes/use case. This change not only patched PvP techniques (breach swapping, lunge swapping, ...) used by tens if not hundreds of thousands of players, but it also makes performing actions quickly much more difficult.

For example, a use case of the previous item switching system was a technique often referred to as 'Breach Swapping'. By holding a fully charged Netherite Sword with an attribute of 8 attack damage you would quickly switch to a Mace with the Breach IV enchantment and click. What this would do is take the attack damage of the sword and practically apply it to the Mace, making the Mace deal the sword's damage while retaining its properties of performing smash attacks and being enchanted with breach.

This 'bug' is no longer simply an error in the game's code, as its been in the game for so long that it has been accepted by players as a staple of the game rather than a problem that needs to be fixed.

This still stands after 26.2-pre-3, since they claim that Attribute Swapping will be patched in future snapshots.

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    Just revert it for the sake of mace pvp

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    Predicting your opponent's shield timing would so ridiculously annoying if attribute swapping got removed since it would completely kill the damage of your attack if they don't shield.

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    This changes every aspect of the game not just PvP but World building and almost every thing that Minecraft stands for

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    I wont update to 26.2 until this is fixed

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    genuinely who does this help?? this just ruins pvp

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    I would have been fine with this if they had done it when the spear was added, but since then its become too good for pvp to just remove it now. In my opinion they should add a gamerule that is default to off for attribute swapping, but can be turned on at will if your server chooses it.

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    Frfr big mojang WE all agree that we need it back(WE yes WE)

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    Attribute-swapping is a pure essential part of PVP specifically for higher ranks and skills, as a PVPer myself this would genuinely hurt the game. Please don't get rid of this, vote for this to stay!!

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    We NEED to keep attribute swapping. by this point, it's literally so much of a game feature that new techniques are being created day by day. I have nothing less to say other than #KEEPATTRIBUTESWAPPINGGG

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    If they remove stuff like stun slamming it would take away the use of mechanicians like swapping through sword and axe to break shield apart of the game just like how mojang kept the ability to break the nether roof I believe they should keep the ability to do stuff like attribute swapping and shield disabling.

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    Attribute swapping was a valuable skill in PvP, and now it’s getting removed, or how Mojang likes to call it, “fixed?” This’ll practically kill the PvP community. Attribute swapping was used for multiple things, as stated, and now that you can’t attribute swap, those techniques aren’t valuable. And I also really don’t see the point of removing it from the game entirely. It’s an extremely easy skill to learn, with the only things affecting how efficiently you can do it is your hotbar and how fast your fingers are. Mojang could at the least nerf attribute swapping, but removing it entirely is killing most of Minecraft’s community.

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    Ive been playing PVP and SMPs for 4 years now and the "bug" is mandatory for pvp and smp gameplay. I wouldn't even call it a bug it is a feature in my eyes

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    Removing attribute swapping will kill the smp pvp community. PvP practice server will still enable it like stunning, but on a regular smp PvP will be dead without attribute swapping.

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    please mr minecraft i have gotten to used to mace and cant live without it please please PLEASE keep it in

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    Please keep pvp the same attribute swapping is the beauty of 1.9+ plus pvp and everyone in the community enjoys it and I have never met someone who wants this change

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    alot of players are going to be upset with this change, its breaking pvp in alot of communities and lowers the skill floor massively to make the game less fun to play. mace is going to be completely useless because of this change due to its massive charge up time.

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    No.

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    EVERYONE FORWARD THIS LINK EVERYWHERE YOU CAN!!

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    plss revote

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    Yo there gonna ruin pvp and the community wont be happy

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    The developers of minecraft seem to not know PvP that well, especially after this. In PvP and other areas of the game, such as speedrunning, the attraction of them is that it is a sandbox game, and a lot of the core mechanics of the areas are not intended, and yet it comes out to balance itself, creating many different areas of pvp specifically. Yet in these areas of pvp, there are a few core mechanics to near all of them, one of them being attribute swapping. It allows for many creative plays, skills, and possibilities, and so has became one of the core mechanics as I have mentioned, becoming known to almost everyone in the community without really ever effecting other areas such as building, survival, modded, and challenges, and rarely effecting speedrunning or parkour. It has become a staple of PvP and there is no real reason to remove it. One thing that you probably will be hesitant on, though, is lunge swapping, a technique to bypass the spear's cooldown, letting the player move quicker than intended. This, however, is the perfect technique to balance the mace, where the previous method to do this was using the elytra, being very prone to escape methods, the spear allows for a player to get nearer to the opponent in the air. This would not be possible without attribute swapping, as it is rare to gain the cooldown to use lunge in the air without bypassing it, and impossible to do it twice. 

    This hasn't really been well thought out, it's just a rant.

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    yeah attribute swapping is cool

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    For any Crystal PvP players—this new update creates a delay when you switch hotbar slots, during which the player can only use the item from the previous slot. This makes it very difficult to perform both hit-crystals and anchors as the player will have to wait between each quick action. Crystal PvP as we know it may become unplayable, especially for skilled individuals.

    As a Crystal PvP player myself, I didn't realize this was the case at first; I was only happy that some overpowered techniques would be removed from the game. However, I came to learn that it would affect my favorite gamemode just as much as others (maybe excluding sword lol). While I still dislike some aspects of attribute swapping, it is clear that it is integral to modern combat.

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    To all of you supporting the new change, if you dont pvp then you should have no say in this because this changes the entire future of the game. Not being able to stun slam or attribute swap basically makes the mace useless. Bro i hope they revert this otherwise im staying on 1.21.11 for the rest of the time i play mc.

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    Things like mace and even UHC will be affected by this. PLEASE REVERT IT! Like others said, if Mojang allows duping and obtaining unobtainable items, attribute swapping should definitely be allowed.

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    What the heck man? If ANYONE votes for this I will be GREATLY dissapointed this will literally destroy the pvp community if it passes

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    yassss king

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    Atribute swapping hasbeen in the game for so long and its so important for pvp, that it people don’t even recognize it as a bug anymore so there’s no reason it should be removed.

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    revert PLEASE.

     

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    We need attribute swaping becouse when we dont have this minecraft pvp be dead on 1.21.11 and all server are stop at 1.21.11