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Revert the 26.2-pre-2 changes on Attribute Swapping

On the latest snapshot you can no longer quickly swap from one item to another and retain its attributes/use case. This change not only patched PvP techniques (breach swapping, lunge swapping, ...) used by tens if not hundreds of thousands of players, but it also makes performing actions quickly much more difficult.

For example, a use case of the previous item switching system was a technique often referred to as 'Breach Swapping'. By holding a fully charged Netherite Sword with an attribute of 8 attack damage you would quickly switch to a Mace with the Breach IV enchantment and click. What this would do is take the attack damage of the sword and practically apply it to the Mace, making the Mace deal the sword's damage while retaining its properties of performing smash attacks and being enchanted with breach.

This 'bug' is no longer simply an error in the game's code, as its been in the game for so long that it has been accepted by players as a staple of the game rather than a problem that needs to be fixed.

This still stands after 26.2-pre-3, since they claim that Attribute Swapping will be patched in future snapshots.

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    This is not a change that affects casual players in any significant way, as attribute swapping is never used outside of serious pvp, the mechanic just allows skill expression and more in depth gameplay for those who choose to do pvp in minecraft.

    I'm saying this as someone who has *no* interest in touching the pvp gamemodes where its used, brushing it off as "sweaty pvpers want to keep their op mechanic" is disingenuous, removing it only disrupts the pvp community minding their own business..

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    It was a great idea Mojang have a lot of bugs and they are good with this

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    it's a pvp strategy now, this is just like QC in redstone, and tnt dupers, being a bug, but used by many, and so useful that it should be retained

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    Attribute swap is main fundamental mechanics of game now please don't debuff this. Pvp will be affected and become worse

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    this shouldnt be removed at least now it has become such a major part of pvp if this get removes many ppl will switch to 1.8 pvp 

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    Its quite amazing how this is the highest vote out of all snapshot feedback.

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    Anyone saying attribute swapping should stay removed is braindead and has no mechanical knowledge of the game, nor about the pvp community 

    Also, to that one guy who is saying that the skill part of attribute swapping can be removed by macros, this is like saying no game in the world needs skill because at the end of the day you just cheat

    Like what, there's a reason macros are considered cheats and heavily banned in almost every pvp server

    Then one guy is out here saying that it should stay removed because it will break his datapack that he made

    Yea man sure your worthless datapack is worth breaking most of major pvp gamemodes (crystal, mace, uhc, smp,, spear mace, cart, pretty much every mechanical gamemode) and making the game feel like it's lagging on a single player world if god forbid you switch your items a bit too fast 🙏 

    Like what did the devs smoke to just wake up one day and decide to randomly patch attribute swapping after it's been a feature for YEARS

    If this gets permanently removed the skill ceiling of this game will be as high as candy crush

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    Attribute Swap is a part of the PvP community and it has been there for a while and nobody had problem with it and removing it doesn’t only make players angry but more player quitting, It also affects players that uses attribute Swap to fight, if it’s removed most of the PvP styles are gone.

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    As an incredibly inexperienced pvper, here's a list of the stuff OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD that is completely destroyed by this change

    Lunge swapping
    Elytra macing
    Rocket macing
    1-tick shield disables
    KB swapping
    Xbow swapping
    Instacarting
    Anchoring in general
    Hit crystals
    Stunslams
    Divebombs
    Generic macing
    THE ENTIRE SPEARMACE COMMUNITY
    Double potting
    Pearl catching
    Shield macing
    Grappling
    Breach swapping

    And I can probably think of more, I came up with that in three minutes
    MOJANG REVERT THIS I LITTERALLY CRIED WHEN I FOUND OUT

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    BRO BRING BACK ATTRIBUTE SWAPPING LIKE ITS A STAPLE OF PVP and like its disappointing that the higher ups of mojang dont care about one of the main things in minecraft which is pvp servers like minemen , mc.pvp are PVP servers and would kinda die if attribute swapping aint there like it cooks crystal pvp , mace, spear mace ,spear  , axe ,UHC like bruh thats like at least a few 100 thousand players who depend on that everyday soo it would be nice to bring back

     

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    This isn't just about removing a bug. We literally spent hours and days mastering these techniques, and now it feels like Mojang is betraying us.

    Even our muscle memory is wired to use the mace with attribute swap every time. It’s going to be really hard to adapt again.

    Please revert the removal of attribute swap.

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    This is more than just fixing a bug. We’ve spent countless hours and days mastering these techniques, and now it feels like Mojang has betrayed the player base.

    Our muscle memory is completely built around using the mace with attribute swap. Adapting to this change will be very difficult.

    Please consider reverting the removal of attribute swap.

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    Genuinly the worst idea by mojang ever potentially ive never seen a worse idea

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    Attribute swapping was never a bug, it is for so long its now a feature literally every player use it in any pvp or survival. Without attribute swapping almost all of the higher skill techniques would get removed and the general skill ceiling and fun of that aspect of minecraft would be significantly lowered.

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    Needing to have a delay between swapping to a block and placing it makes any fast paced block placing minigame/challenge horrible and unintuitive

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    Yo pvp is gonna suck and hella ppl will stop playing the game

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    This affects so many things in the game. It's been in the game for so long it is a part of the game. So many things have been added to the game and made official because they were a bug before. Revert these changes now.

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    If this doesn't get changed back I might quit I spent a year practicing this when I first found out about that and wasted so much time on it, it's muscle memory and that effects everything.

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    WE WANT ALTRIBUTE SWAP BACK MOJANG HOW DARE U RUINING THE PVP  COM

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    atp there is no reason to play this game tbh
    the attribute swap was carrying the whole pvp community
    so please bring this back as a feature this time

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    ADD ATTRIBUTE SWAPPING!

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    MOJANG BRING BACK ATTRIBUTE SWAP AND MY LIFE IS YOURRRRRR

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    This feature will kill the pvp community as it have inspired and even made people want to get into minecraft and this feature could and most likely will ruining server like and content

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    Please bring back attribute swapping Mojang!

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    Remove it, it just breaks game mechanics
    pvp players can stay on 1.21 like the 1.8 players lmao

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    ADD ATTRIBUTE SWAPS BACK

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    it literally carry every pvp gammode how you guys can remove that i know that was a bug but we player use this as a feature i request you guys pleas do not remove this 

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    I agree that it remains.

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    I'm a Server owner and I knew it was a bugg for a very long time but came essential the past year of 2. But my opinion I didn't like attribute swapping but a toggle for the people who may use it is acceptable.

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    nao faça isso