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Please balance your PvP. Specifically the mace and spear.

The mace has become the most oppressive weapon in the game by far making any other form of PvP unusable when facing it. The entire concept of the weapon is poor design and needs a rework. Dealing unlimited damage by falling from the sky where you don't even see a mace player coming is un-fun for anyone playing against it and makes a lot of people rage on servers. A second grievance, is that when you're dueling someone with a sword and they jump in the air with a wind charge and one shot kill you with a maxed out mace. That's not good design. It's unbalanced and unfair for anyone who is playing against it.
By far the most annoying issue with the mace and spear both is how they are paired with elytra. When I play PvP, I don't want to feel like I'm fighting against an eagle that will kill me in one hit if I slip up.

Some ideas for how you can balance the two weapons are a damage cap of maybe three hearts, or doing something to limit their use with elytra. 
Any weapon that has the ability to one shot a maxed out player with an enchanted golden apple, wardens, etc is a fundamentally broken concept that needs to be addressed.
This includes crystals as well but they are not as oppressive as the mace and spear.

I own multiple servers and the biggest gripe players have with the mace and spear are how anyone can fall out of the sky and kill them in one hit before they ever saw that player. I solved this with a paper plugin by implementing a damage cap and many players enjoyed it.

Please fix!

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    Take a look at my underarmor post and upvote it. I think just introducing a better way to protect yourself would be better, or the mace would be a joke immagine using a rare wepon on a naked player only to deal 3 damage aka less than a diamond sword

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    The current PvP is a "Mace+Wind Charge" loop with zero counter-play. Shields are obsolete. This overhaul balances Mace, Spear, and Shields.

    1. The Mace (Two-Hit Weapon)
    - Problem: Wind Charge jumps allow near-instant kills against Prot IV Netherite.
    - Solution: Cap low-altitude damage. A standard Wind Charge jump with Density V should deal max 6-6.5 hearts of true damage against full Prot IV Netherite.
    - Impact: Eliminates cheap one-shots. Attackers must chain a 2nd/3rd precise hit while bouncing, giving defenders a fair window to counter. One-shots remain possible ONLY via max-height Elytra drops (with un-equipping mid-air).

    2. The Spear (High Risk-Reward Starter)
    - Problem: Spear scaling based on horizontal speed is too weak to threaten Prot IV.
    - Solution: Buff high-speed Elytra dives. A direct hit at max velocity (35+ blocks/sec) should deal 7.5 hearts of damage through Prot IV Netherite.
    - The Catch: Landing a high-speed strike causes an abrupt stop and inflicts 3 hearts of recoil damage to the attacker, putting both face-to-face.

    3. The Shield (Anti-Dive Counter)
    - Solution: Blocking a max-velocity Spear or Mace dive directly with a Shield completely negates the damage (0 damage taken).
    - Trade-Off: Absorbing the impact drains 50% of Shield durability (breaks after 2 blocks). The attacker crashes, takes their 3 hearts of recoil damage, and is momentarily stunned on the ground.

    Rock-Paper-Scissors Meta:
    1. Spear punishes open targets.
    2. Shield counters Spear.
    3. Mace breaks Shields.