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Bane of Arthropods vs Creepers

As titled.
Currently, Bane of Arthropods' use is way too circumstantial. Spiders are already the weakest "standard" hostile out of Zombies, Skeletons, Spiders, Creepers.

  • Consider that with Strength Potions+, and Iron Sword+Smite IV, we one-shot Zombies and Skeletons, or Spiders with Diamond Sword+Sharpness IV, giving them very little chance to do damage at all. Not creepers.
  • Consider that all of these 3 monsters need multiple attacks to do the average damage a creeper will do to a player, when even one(!) slightly mistimed attack causes the creeper to detonate.
  • Consider that creepers are just as common as the other 3 mobs, not less common. If players were supposed to account for them more than the others, they shouldn't be just as common. Like Endermen/Witches.
  • Consider that therefor, with the other mobs affected by BoA encountered rarely, this leaves BoA obsolete.

The main argument against this will be "to prevent making it too easy to gain large amounts of gunpowder quickly". But considering creepers need only to explode once to not drop anything, still do damage, and still damage the terrain, that's not entirely sound. You retain the same result with reduced creeper damage(which isn't the case either), so that argument is too black-and-white. There are more options than "yes" and "no".

Enchanting a sword with BoA would be mostly for creepers, which is a higher investment for less reward than Smite/Sharpness. This is why it would be balanced and fair. Rename the enchant if needed.

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    Why I mentioned Strength+ instead of Strength II potions? Because redstone is more abundant than glowstone dust, the ingredients for the specific potions. Which means you'll find players do their experience grinding with Strength+ instead of Strength II pots.

    The longer you think about it, the more the arguments in favor pile up:

    -Creepers make the most stealthy footstep sounds out of the 4, easily mistaken for your own.
    -Creepers make no idle sounds which would alert you to their proximity.

    If enchants make fighting the other 3 mobs way easier, it is only fair that the same difference counts just as much for enchants vs creepers as well.

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    I'd argue the main issue with this actually is that it doesn't make sense for "Bane of Arthropods" to affect mobs that have a spine. 

    You say "Rename the enchant if needed", what to? I personally cannot think of a name for an enchantment that deals extra damage and slowness (look it up) to Arthropods + Creepers

     

    You make some passable arguments about the creeper feeling more unfair compared to other mobs that spawn during the night, but Bane of Arthropods is not the solution imo

    And there's already an enchantment that counters creepers, its called Blast Protection

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    OP here:

    The point is not so much BoA being "BoA", but there being an enchant that makes killing creepers as practical as, say, smite eases killing undead mobs.

    It's not like creepers are boss mobs or something. They spawn just as much as other basic hostiles. The current sword enchants simply don't scale with creepers. Sharpness adds half as much dmg than BoA and Smite vs intended targets. If anything, it would make more sense to have no specialised enchants against the other mobs, except one for creepers.
    Because BoA is pretty unused right now, it would be best to replace it with an enchant that álso works vs creepers.

    This is a matter of balance, not enchant names or lore logic.