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Deoxidizing Copper Feedback

Now that copper can be deoxidized, I'd like to share my feedback about how it misses the mark.

  • [Feature now exists!] It must now be possible to wax fully oxidized copper, as it is now the only variant of copper that can't be locked into its current state.
  • The Hoe should be the primary tool for scraping off wax. Hoe, Axe, Shears, Sword should all be able to do it, maybe at an increasing durability penalty. Shears may have the added bonus of being able to scrape from a dispenser.
  • Lightning removing oxidation doesn't really make sense. In reality, arcing is a way to cause oxidation, not remove it. I suspect the intent is to resemble Electrolysis, but the electrical polarity is wrong and there's nowhere for the oxide to go. Oxidation being a slow/spontaneous thing seems reasonable but deoxidation seems like it should be intentional and controllable, especially when considering the addition of waxing.

As an alternative route to deoxidizing, I would like to shamelessly plug my idea for Soot. Soot can be used to make caustic soda, which is actually an important ingredient in the rust removal electrolysis process.
Soot! – Minecraft Feedback

Edit: Added tag to fully oxidized copper waxing - this feature is in the latest Java snapshot as of 9-Apr-2021.

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    there is no use for waxed fully oxidized copper since it can't oxidize further

    deoxidation doesn't need to be scientifically accurate 

     why should deoxidation be "intentional and controllable"? if you want the copper to stay in a previous state of oxidation, then wax it before it oxidises. I think the lightning deoxidation is a fun addition not meant for a very practical use. 

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    If you don't want your Copper roof to deoxidize, you can just put a Lightning Rod on a surface other than the building (mentioning that since I've seen a lot of complaints). The logic behind Copper deoxidizing when struck with lightning is that lightning burns the green patina. Also, not everything has to be scientifically accurate; you're playing a fantasy game. Lightning does a lot of crazy things. Having an entire item that is just there to deoxidize Copper doesn't really make sense. The Lightning mechanic is more of a fun alternative, the really functional method is scraping, and I think that scraping should be limited to the axe.

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    @Djiog M
    Wax is an electrical insulator. Fully oxidized copper can't be oxidized further but it can be deoxidized randomly. Waxing should protect it from random deoxidation, just as it protects the others from changing state in either direction.

    We all have different thresholds for suspension of disbelief, based on what we do for a living. As such I'm more sensitive to how electricity works than the average person. I'm willing to accept that I'm biased here, but if a different approach to the task is more intuitive it should at least be considered.

    @Ziad El-Moursy
    True, lighting rods should be placed well away from metal roofs, lest your entire roof conduct the strike and do all the damage the rod is supposed to protect from.

    Burning off patina is nonsense, if that were the logic it should also be possible to deoxidize in a blast furnace. See above for my commentary on scientific accuracy. Lightning does a lot of crazy - let's say magical - things. Turning people into witches, summoning the 4 horsemen. Interacting with a block is a more mundane effect, the way lighting starts fires and deoxidizes should not be put in the same category as magical effects.

    My soot suggestion has far more than a single use.

    I disagree, all bladed tools should be capable of scraping. A hoe is the tool most shaped like a plane/scraper. Since axes "scrape" bark off trees it is a logical choice as well, but I don't think it should be the unique one. Plus, shears have a Redstone application.

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    GregrDuckman copper doesn't deoxidize randomly. if you're referring to the lightning strikes, then just put a lightning rod away from the desired area so that the copper doesn't get hit by it.