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Stopping Pillager Spawns at Outposts

Stop Pillagers Spawning at Outposts by Destroying Their Banners to Make it Usable

The new pillager outpost is an amazing build and I already have so many ideas on what can be done with them, and I think they could make really cool property in a survival server. However, you can't really make it your home as it is right now, or even just a safe base of yours, as pillagers constantly spawn there. Some players may want that, for things like pillager farms for example, or just places they can go to constantly kill some pillagers for a XP boost and maybe some other loot. But I think it would be great if the player could take it away from the pillagers and use it for whatever they want, as the building as so much potential for that, and I think the best way of signifying to the game you don't want pillagers spawning is taking away all the illager banners at the top of the tower. It's symbolic of them losing control of the place, and it also makes it a bit of a task for the player, as they have to get to the top of the tower first and avoid all that crossbow fire. This will make the outposts of much more value to the player, as they will have more versatility. It can also be made more balanced by making the "Bad Omen" effect also cause raids to captured outposts, giving a buff to that status effect and adding a bit more character to the outposts. I think this would make the outposts so much better and would give them more use both early-game and late-game, and would fit in nicely with the "war against the illagers" theme in 1.14.

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    Fractal Haze commented
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    I definitely like the idea of being able to repurpose the towers.

    That said, it really isn't a "bit of a task." I have twice now started a game in view of a tower, and both times I stormed it without doing anything at all beyond picking up a block of dirt. I ran for the tower and ran inside... the first time having no idea what to expect, but figuring it was a fun way to start. I found the door easily and took one hit on the run to get there. I ran up the stairs and no one was inside the tower waiting. Those giving chase were not close enough behind to get a shot off as I wound up the stairs. At the top, I turned and used the dirt to block the stairs. I then had all the time in the world to loot the chest as they grunted beneath me. I turned to go and had to drop from the tower, but probably should have just run through them.

    The second time was even easier. I cased the place from a distance (they patrol and will attack if you are too close) and found the entrance in advance. I got a good line on the door and ran for it. No damage. Same deal, got the loot, and this time there's a pond beneath me, so I just run off the top of the tower. No damage at the bottom. One of them gave chase for a long time and got two hits, but I emerged unscathed and healed with the food I just stole from the tower chest along with the rest of the loot that included a crossbow and some other good starter stuff.

    In other words... yes, I like your idea. No, I don't think it's much of a task to get the top of the tower if it can be done at the very beginning of a game.

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    Sonja Vilenius commented
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    I encountered an outpost very close to a village and when I used both to trigger a raid I went trough my bow trying to finish the first wave. I got 13 omenous banners and 7 crossbows before leaving the village to fend for itself.

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    Marc Adrian commented
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    I would like to add my support for this suggestion, with some further comments and tweaks. I think that instead of pillagers randomly spawning around the terrain of the outpost, there should be a finite count of them associated with it. Perhaps 50 would be a good number? After they are defeated, the outpost is yours, to destroy or repurpose.

    Pillager outposts add something fun and challenging to the game. But I don't think the pillagers themselves should be randomly blinking on and off like the ghoulish nighttime mobs of skeletons and zombies. Somehow that feels wrong. It makes them seem less like human entities and more like, well, just random generated mobs. With a finite count of pillagers in the forts, we have a pathway to victory and closure.

    As fun as the pillagers are, it's actually pointless to engage with them. We need a reason to interact with pillager outposts. There needs to be a way to conquer them, even if it's really hard to do so. That would encourage the player to strategize the best way to topple the towers and even repurpose them, if desired. As it stands now, I just ignore the outposts, having learned what I did about them. After all, what's the point?

    This needs to change in Minecraft.

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    nrgnight commented
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    I would love this.

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    breakfastboss commented
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    I just filled the tower with torches and they stopped spawning

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    SquareConch1681 commented
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    I have tried everything. I destroyed their home. I burned the grass, put some wood over it and they keep on spawning. I am playing in survival hardcore mode. But the fact that they keep spawning no matter what on the same location is truly annoying. Is there any way to stop that?

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    Benny Pollok commented
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    If you're willing, you can place a repeating command block with the following command in the center of the top floor of the tower:

    tp @e[type=pillager] ~ -100 ~

    This will keep the entity count low as opposed to killing the pillagers with a command and having their loot drop all over the place. You may want to turn off command block output as every time it sends one into the void it will tell you in the chat.

    I have my command block set up to be redstone dependent. I put the command block in the center of the floor, a quartz block with a switch attached covering it, and a redstone lamp on top that indicates if the command block is receiving redstone power. Lamp on = no pillagers. Lamp off = normal amount of pillagers.

    It is a decent temporary fix to something that will hopefully be updated later on. Plus it makes for a great challenge between players to see who can light the lamp first.

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    o0Drew commented
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    I think it should be like a banner design that you need to make on top of removing their banners. Maybe if you used an illager head to craft a banner that stops illagers from spawning. This would add more complexity and allow people to build bases that ward off illagers/pillagers in a unique and quite relevant way.

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    MrHappymoose2 commented
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    Definitely like this idea, especially as after the update the Pillagers seem to be spawning absolutely non-stop.

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    F4stTurtle commented
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    Nah. Just make a replica if you want an outpost of your own. Then you can avoid the hostility altogether. I don't see why you would want them to stop spawning when that is the most likely chance of you finding them besides a rare patrol.

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    Vega Grinnell commented
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    Yes. Please. I'm currently trying to settle in one but they won't stop spawning and I am always left with half a heart at the end

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    klumaverik commented
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    I totally agree. But still have them randomly spawn out in the open a little bit too so you still can get them like save the one with the banner so more spawn with him.

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    PenmanPreacher7 commented
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    I think it would be cool if every That could be one out of ten banners dropped by a Pillager Captain contained a blood splatter. That could be the sign for pillager's to stop spawning.

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    ashes of suvius commented
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    im personally not a fan of this idea. if u like the aesthetic of the towers, you can always build your own. many raid farms make use of the pillagers outpost areas, including getting rid of the tower itself and replacing it with a trap or mob grinder for the pillagers to reliably get the bad omen effect. mojang messes with farms enough, mostly iron golem farms, but also others. we dont need them messing up everyones raid farm.

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    Tusskie commented
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    I'm currently rebuilding one out of fireproof blocks. I tried a lava most and nothing. Maybe if I completely recreate the Outpost, make it my own the spawning will stop

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    Stroniax commented
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    I love this idea; particularly this part:

    "It can also be made more balanced by making the "Bad Omen" effect also cause raids to captured outposts"

     

    This indicates that upon taking an outpost, a raid would be triggered that you'd have to immediately fight off. What I'd love to see is that any failed raid would result in the surrounding area becoming a hostile outpost. The same then could apply to villages; if a raid is failed, the pillagers place some banners and the place becomes pillager-controlled and they'll spawn there to defend the village.

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    Madison Orr commented
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    i just put carpet on where they seem to spawn

     

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    Master_Keeper _MC commented
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    this is so neccesary!

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    RandomMink18105 commented
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    Honestly, I hate Pillagers. They spawn CONSTANTLY, everywhere in the game it seems, and in Bedrock, there isn't a way to disable them (aside from half slabs around the tower, and that obviously doesn't stop the wider region spawns). If I could get rid of them entirely, I would. I like the suggestions of triggering a raid on the tower once you claim it, it would make a fun challenge, and then actually make interactions with them worth more than Bad Omen and damaged crossbows.

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    Sway Xoc commented
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    Totally agree! Right now there seems to be no point in attacking the Pillager Outposts- the pillagers just respawn, so you can't really 'beat' it, and for better players, the loot isn't that good. Granted, you might want to free the Iron Golems and just burn down the whole place- (Speaking of which, I am all for a little villager prison inside the outpost- that would provide more motivation to attack, and free them)- but honestly, it is just a big waste of time if they just keep respawning. Here's my general thoughts:

    1. Have a special banner or block in the center of the top story of the tower. When a player claims it, pillagers stop spawning. The pillagers prevously spawned do not despawn. This would make it so that a player still has to fight to take the outpost, not just be fast and grab the banner.

    2. I definitely agree with the raid idea. It can't be a true war if we can't fight for certain positions! That requires being able to conquer the outposts- and for the pillagers to be able to take it back. The raid would likely have to be different, since right now they are designed to slaughter innocents in wooden villages. I'm not sure if the Illagers should win if enough of them get into the tower or if they just drive the player(s) away. I like the getting into the tower idea pretty good, because then the player can't just hole up in the top story with their wheat farm and just wait out the raid; they would have to actively fight to keep the Illagers out of the main tower.

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    Flabershlap101 commented
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    I like this idea a lot!

    What I'm struggling with right now... I'm really bad at survival MC. I haven't played many times, let alone beat the Ender Dragon ever. A little ways off from my spawn, I found a perfect little protected valley to settle in, so I built my house, started a mine, etc. A few days later I hear the malicious little grunts and there's one chasing me around my settlement. Little did I know there was an outpost less than 80 blocks from my front door, so if I go too far out adventuring that way they spot me and chase me some more. The most annoying thing, though, is the occasional pillager popping across the river for a visit.

    My idea is to at least have a finite number of pillagers that spawn so they don't just keep showing up at my front door for a house-warming party.

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    MockingMaster commented
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    bro just go somewhere else and build yourself a base