Your dedicated space for sending us feedback and suggestions for Update 1.21!

← Minecraft Update 1.21
300
Follow

Please stop providing Obfuscation map

In view of the recent removal of the Bedrock Edition's pdb, in order to improve the security of mc, it is recommended to remove the Java Edition's Obfuscation map. If think this is still not safe enough, Minecraft Java Edition should be compiled into native-image and use Digital Rights Management.

Avatar
Registered User shared this idea

76 Comments

Please sign in to leave a comment.

Date Votes
Sorted by oldest
  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Genius idea, makes Minecraft safer

  • 7
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink 
    This request contributes nothing, other than affecting the game
  • 22
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Not providing the obfuscation map will only delay the release time of the modloader and increase the development difficulty for mod developers. However, creating cheats is profitable, and cheat developers do not care about the development difficulty. Therefore, ironically, there are more cheats and the anti-cheat becomes obsolete.

    不提供映射表只会推迟modloader的发布时间和提高模组开发人员的开发难度，但写挂是有钱挣的，外挂才不管开发难度。所以反倒是外挂更多了且反外挂废了。

  • 13
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Removing the obfuscation map will cause the increasing of the modmaking difficulty.I do not think it is a good idea.

  • 14
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Removing the Obfuscation map to keep safe is like Refusing to eat anything to avoid choking.It has little effect in keeping safety and eliminating cheats.But it will greatly increase the difficulty of modmaking,which is harmful to the community.If the Obfuscation map is stopped providing, it will greatly lower the popularity of Minecraft because most of the players play mods instead of the vallina.

  • 12
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    It has little effect to the safety.And not a good idea to make modmaking more difficult.

  • 8
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Not providing obfuscation will only delay the release of the modloader and make the development of the modloader more difficult. According to Minecraft's EULA and Mojang Studio's statement, in principle, mod authoring cannot provide differentiated paid content; However, it is profitable to create cheating. Cheating developers don't care how hard it is to develop under a big bounty. So, ironically, this measure that claims to be for the sake of making the game safer will result in more cheats and more difficulty in anti-cheating.

  • 1
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    I totally agree with this. This would be a great change since you all decided to remove the Bedrock Symbols. A lot of people use Minecraft Java mods maliciously!!!

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    It would be good to do this. I understand that this may slow down the process of developing mod loaders, but a more crucial thing, which is security, can be improved a lot. Hack clients, which bring someone a lot of profit, can hardly exist. People who love Java mods can stay in old versions, as many mods are rooted in previous versions. Vanilla players can enjoy their secure games more with the improvement in this post.

  • 3
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    The act of deleting the pdb file looks like such a joker move.

  • 1
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    坚决反对此言论，如果删除了map文件，会导致模组开发上的一些困难。(刚才是因为冲动，然后骂人了)

  • 2
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    :/

  • 7
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    I don't think this is a good idea since Minecraft nowadays practically relies on Minecraft Java Edition Mods to stay a float. I've seen addon people talking about "loosing money," but Bedrock add-ons are not MODS, they are DATA PACKS. Do not compare the two of them together. Mods are the reasons why people play Minecraft for the most part. It improves the sandbox game that Minecraft is MEANT to be! Were your so called "add-ons" even original, or were they stolen from a forge mod? I've seen a user on the market place called FTB post a remake of Tinkers Construct and can't tell if its the forge maker or actually Feed The Beast themselves taking it.

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    This is an amazing breakthrough and will contribute so much to the game!

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Good idea! If Mojang ruins one, they should ruin the other! That brings more parity!

  • 2
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Please stop being so greedy Microsoft

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    I do believe it was Mojang's decision to provide an obfuscation map in order to support Java Edition modding.

    This will not only slow down the ModLoaders' development, but also discourage the modders who work on this voluntarily.

  • 3
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    ?

     

  • 2
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    The obfuscation mappings are not essential for modifying Java code, so removing them would not improve security by any margin.

    And it's not like the hundreds of games that don't provide deobfuscation and use DRM's aren't consistently hacked...

    The only people implementing your suggestion would hurt is legitimate players who want to enjoy playing the game their own way, and I think that that is inherently a terrible compromise to make for whichever modicum of security you may think it gives you.

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Do you guys realise that this wouldn't actually change anything? Mappings like ParchmentMC are better and more complete, so if the official ones disappeared nothing would change. Even if you compile natively that would just slow down modding, and hackers would be much harder to stop as when they do find exploits no-one can dig into the code and find out what's going on without having to spend ages on data mining.

    Also, DRM never lasts.

  • 5
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    This is all around a really bad idea, and I almost thought it wasn't real until I saw all the comments in here of people talking like children. First off, removing the obfuscation map. While it would make things more difficult for people attempting to modify the game, it will have nowhere near the same impact as removing the pdb file. It may make things slightly more difficult, but it's by no means impossible. This is actually a quirk of the Java language. Basically, most languages will compile your code into something a machine can read and execute. Java however, compiles your code into byte-code which is close to but not quite machine readable code. When you run a Java application, Java actually compiles this byte-code down to machine code at runtime. This has the benefit that you can run Java apps on any machine that can run Java instead of needing a different compilation for each piece of hardware. If it works on Windows, it'll work on Mac or Linux with no extra steps. Native-Image would only do so much to combat this. It is not a perfect solution at all, and would create more work for the developers as they'd need to compile a different version of Minecraft for each operating system. DRM is a bad suggestion in any circumstance too. Ironically, this would make the situation worse because mod developers would be overburdened with no incentive to keep working, while cheat developers would continue to have a very clear financial incentive. Please reconsider your feedback.

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    I think that the best decision here is to remove Minecraft from all the marketplaces because people will always find a way to do bad stuff with your product. 

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    This would be wonderful for java edition! The entire community would be ecstatic.

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    This is a really important change! We really need it to make Java edition as secure as Bedrock Edition is now!

  • 0
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Oh, but of course, many people in the comments section have raised the issue of other obfuscation maps. Microsoft should be suppressing those dangerous community-created mods and obfuscation maps so that I can have a fully safe Java Edition experience!

  • 2
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    Yes. I dare you to implement this, Mojang. 

  • 1
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    What a good idea to improve feature parity between Java and Bedrock!

  • 1
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    this is stupid, as a plugin developer this will only make it extremely hard to maintain spigot servers (especially ones that use NMS), if you want good security, you should consider requesting better server-side anti-cheat. all this would do is hurt the modding community, hurt shaders, hurt plugins, and all the servers you play on would require a lot more work for the plugins that that server uses. this is a silly request that would break most of what makes this game good.

     

  • 5
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    This isn't just killing the Minecraft Java modding community, it's killing the game altogether.

  • 2
    Registered User commented
    Comment actions Permalink

    You should also DMCA take down Fabric Yarn.