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Revert attribute swapping changes

In the last snapshot Mojang has completely REMOVED attribute swapping, and if not reverted, this could  literally RUIN the whole pvp system and it would also change kits like Mace, UHC, Spear Mace etc drastically leading to a lot of people not updating the game and staying on an old version.
DON'T REMOVE GOOD "BUGS" THAT HAVE BECOME FEATURES FOR THE COMMUNITY(like breaking the nether roof)

(Edit: there is apparently a lot of more issues coming with this: "The order in which inputs are processed have changed from hotbar -> attack -> use to attack -> use -> hotbar, meaning every swap now carries an unavoidable 50ms delay before any action can occur. Shields and totems both inherit this delay on top of their existing latency because you can no longer use them immediately after swapping, for gamemodes like pot and nethpot your potions are thrown +50ms later. For Vanilla PvP, anchor speed goes from 150ms to 300ms, hit-crystal from 100ms to 200ms. Effectively every timing doubles for any hotbar action. On 30ms ping, players ghost around 60% of their inputs. Across the board, vanilla PvP is close to unplayable. Stun slamming goes from  from 100ms to 200ms, using an axe goes to taking a full 100ms."

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    keep attribute swapping for spear and mace but anything else idc

  • 23
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    Removing the mechanic that lets mace and spear pvp be the way it is would make it infinitely more braindead than you think it is.

  • 63
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    pls mojang pls  re-add atribute swaping

  • 32
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    I really don't want to have to add a plugin to fix this its part of the game now (specifically PvP) don't change this Mojang 

  • 24
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    This basically makes it impossible to be in any kind of mid-early game PvP when it doesn’t punish people who can just shield spam which removes a lot of skill from the game

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    I am kind of in the middle of developing an entirely new pvp style surrounding the spear. And like, it's already much weaker than most of the weapons in live pvp unless you have a literal elytra. By removing attribute swapping it breaks so much of it's potential.

    The other day I figured how to combine lunge and bow boost for a super dash, but it requires attribute swapping to be effective.
    Mojang, please keep it.

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    Horrible update, every shield related gamemode is ruined. First they remove stuns, now they remove attribute swapping? Just ruining PvP even more.

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    Causally killed the whole 1.9 pvp with the most unnecessary update and the only ppl who like the new snapshot are no skill normal players who have nothing to do with pvp revert the change mojang BRING BACK ATTRIBUTE SWAPPING

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    Everyone is talking about spear mace but dont understand that attribute swapping is in every section of the game and really kills 90% of the game even if you dont pvp i guarantee you accidentally did a attribute swap and are still doing not intentionally you will understand if you try to play the new snapshot bring attribute swapping back mojang

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    they should have brought back stuns itself but they just took away the whole PvP in the game now ppl with a shield will be able to punch a guy with a axe to death like hit and run will be so no skill that it actually makes me nauseous

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    Lt6 players liked this new change W mojang

  • 12
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    We should actually report a concern for ppl who think this update is good and will be good for future smh

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    We need attribute swaping back

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    they say that using old versions is bad, mojang this is why

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    As said above ; attribute swapping is fully a part of the technniques in the minecraft PVP comunity. 

    I also belive that from a gameplay perspective this bug doesn't break the game, it's a tick-perfect action that rewards you with a small boost, it allows for fast-paced pvp and crazy actions using the spear.

    In short not many people wants attribute swapping to be removed.

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    If you remote this, not even shield disabling will be the same anymore bro 😭

  • 3
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    Maybe let disable attribute swapping in game rules not delete it whole

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    Attribute swapping is literally the best thing that could’ve happened.

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    Removing attribute swapping is a monumental mistake on Mojang's end and unnecessarily alienates millions upon millions of players. Attribute swapping has become a firmly engrained aspect of Minecraft PVP and its removal would cause a significant amount of this game's skill expression to simply disappear. This change would affect mace and spear like others have mentioned but also any game mode that includes a shield, that being nearly all of them. A change this large could cause a rift in versions akin to the 1.8 to 1.9 split. I see no reason that attribute swapping should be removed as other bugs that have been engrained into Minecraft to the same extent remain. The two best examples of this I can think of off the top of my head are quasi connectivity and tnt dupers. I urge Mojang to realize the gravity of this decision and revert these changes. 

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    Only reason mc is popular rn is cuz of spear cart or mace atp or js call it attribute swapping like why remove the most awesome "bug" in mc doesn't that lowk js make the people who play mace cart and spear quit ??

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    Hello mojang,

    Im here to talk about why removing the most unique mechanic in this game called "attribute swap" will make your game become less popular than how it should be

    1.Removing this will make the whole mc pvp community change completely bcz this mechanic already become the most used mechanic in every gamemode it was even been use in vanilla minecraft such as normal survival, smp and so on

    2.the pvp kit will need to the change 180° from what it is now bcz of this removed mechanic

    3.some of the weapon that you all added to the game will be completely useless and would be left behind such as mace, spear and tnt minecart because it need this mechanic for their potential to be seen such as stun slam for the mace,lunge thing idk the name for spear and tnt cart bomb (there is still more cons of this update)

    This is pretty much the issue of this update (not all of it)

    So please mojang just re-added this mechanic back, listen to your own community when it comes to things that doesn't ruined the community itself

    So please, bring our attribute swap back mojang

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    If attribute swapping is removed the whole community will bust through mojang's office because ppl spent hours days weeks months trying to master it to be good at pvp and stuff and it can affect other community as well like speedrunning redstone community and others like why would you even remove it mojang yall seen vids of ppl doing attribute swapping and its been in the game for multiple years it has become a feature.

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    I disagree. I think "attribute swapping" should be patched (as it currently is). It's quite buggy behavior and it causes issues and exploits in many user creations.

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    Brojang don’t delete attribute swapping ppl just spam shield revert it dawg

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    mace and spear is so braindead but i don't agree with this basically ruined pvp

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    This completely removes basically every advanced pvp technique except for in sword and crystal

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    Keep ot

  • 3
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    Aaaaaaand mace is useless

  • 4
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    new snapshot is ruining the pvp system, im not playing snapshots please make it same as 1.21.11

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    The Minecraft Attribute Swap, or “Bug” as it used to be, is a highly helpful, and at this point, a completely routine part of the game. Microsoft, I really do understand your reasons for wanting this “bug” gone, but at this point in time, is it really still a bug? Take a potato chip for instance. 72% of people like potato chips, and a lot of Microsoft employees may be some of those people. Anyways... Potato chips were created completely by accident, and yet now, people make them in packages and bags. They sell them. It may have been a mistake at first, but wasn’t it a good one? 

    Going back to the Attribute Swap; It may have been a mistake at first– an accident. But now, is it not just part of the game? The above paragraph mentions the Nether roof, such as how a player can Ender pearl-glitch through it. Yes, maybe at one point that was a bug or mistake, but now, is it not part of the game? Are there not millions of videos that include it? 

    Tell me, Microsoft, are you really going to force millions of people to include a plug-in on their server, or to stay on older versions, just to clear up a bug? Will you not lose more people that way? Who will go on the newer and newer versions you are making? I suspect very few. A tiny portion of all who play Minecraft normally. To conclude, Microsoft, please do not remove the Attribute Swap bug, because I honestly feel like it will end up worse for everyone.

    Thank you,

    -A devoted Minecraft PvP player and Attribute Swap user