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Revert the 26.2-pre-2 changes on Attribute Swapping

On the latest snapshot you can no longer quickly swap from one item to another and retain its attributes/use case. This change not only patched PvP techniques (breach swapping, lunge swapping, ...) used by tens if not hundreds of thousands of players, but it also makes performing actions quickly much more difficult.

For example, a use case of the previous item switching system was a technique often referred to as 'Breach Swapping'. By holding a fully charged Netherite Sword with an attribute of 8 attack damage you would quickly switch to a Mace with the Breach IV enchantment and click. What this would do is take the attack damage of the sword and practically apply it to the Mace, making the Mace deal the sword's damage while retaining its properties of performing smash attacks and being enchanted with breach.

This 'bug' is no longer simply an error in the game's code, as its been in the game for so long that it has been accepted by players as a staple of the game rather than a problem that needs to be fixed.

This still stands after 26.2-pre-3, since they claim that Attribute Swapping will be patched in future snapshots.

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    attribute swapping has been in the game for so long, it would ruin a lot of techniques aswell. same with the nether roof pearl glitch, that was never fixed.

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    the casuals dont care so this only hurts the competitve scene of minecraft

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    it makes pvp a lot more fun and it also affects crystal and blocks and stuff and you would have to relearn all of that because of changes it just please don't change it

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    honestly this really shows how much mojang hates the pvp community. while ppl might say otherwise, the other features that people wanted but they wanted to revert, mojang just kept it in favour of them, but when the pvp community finds something fun to play around, they just revert it.

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    Attribute Swapping has basically become a core feature at this point and it only effects minecraft pvp communites, which have accepted and loved this "bug" Why remove something that the players want to keep. It just does'nt make sense to me

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    Without attribute swaps, mcpvp becomes literally impossible. Crystal PvP, UHC, SMP, diamond SMP, Mace, Spear and many MANY more gamemodes are rendered useless without it. If Minecraft does not revert the change, Minecraft pvp as a whole would be unfixable 

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    So genuinely every single official GM outside of sword pvp is negatively affected by this. It’ll either create another 1.8, or every server is just going to use a mod to add it back like with stunning. Like Mojang Microsoft I love you dearly but this is top 10 WORST decisions EVER made

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    If there and changes this big that Mojang are "fixing/patching" they should ask us first if we want it changed or not. Attribute Swapping is now a part of minecraft and the pvp community. 

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    Don't remove attribute swapping. BRING IT BACK!

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    Hey Mojang! If you are reading this comment out of the hundreds already posted, I appreciate it very much!

    We all know Attribute Swapping is a game breaking bug, and we all know that this is an unintended game feature that should've been patched a long time ago. This bug might seem like a big problem in the future, and at first, when the bug got discovered, it did. However, now that the bug has been in the game for more than a year, people have gotten used to it. People have accepted that this bug is now a feature. And the players love it. This bug not only gives Minecraft snappy behavior, but it adds a lot of unintended - now considered intended - gameplay features, that would ruin the whole Minecraft PVP Community if it would be removed. We shouldn't call Attribute Swapping a bug, we should call it a mechanic.

    If you remove Attribute Swapping, you are facing 3 very big risks that will shape the future of Minecraft PVP:

    1. By removing this mechanic, you are essentially saying: "We don't care about the Minecraft PVP Community, we can change whatever we want, whenever we want".
    2. The PVP Community would essentially become a ghost town. Every little cool trick, every tiny advantage the mechanic created would be removed. It would make PVP look stale and repetitive.
    3. No one would play PVP anymore. All the cool projects, all the game modes, all the SMPs will be held back to older versions. Always left behind.

    Removing this bug only destroys communities. Is that really what you want, Mojang? 

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    Mojang if you remove this, not only will it ruin PVP, but a large portion of your players won't play the new versions. Attribute swapping plays such a  huge role in many PVP gamemodes, alot of techniques rely on attribute swapping. Mace will be damaged heavily with this change and the Lunge enchant will be useless for movement essentially and Elytra will be the only good mobility item, your Spear is supposed to be an earlygame mobility item for. Please Mojang, is this really what you want for your players, are you being for real??

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    Bring back attribute swapping.

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    WE will be staying on 1.21.11 if this change goes through in retaliation 

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    Mojang, WE are all not going back to basic sword pvp, attribute swapping makes the pvp more fun but it does need to be nerfed or something, I've literally been one tapped by just a simple windcharge and then a mace attribute swap which is completely dumb and unbalances the games pvp mechanics.

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    Please revert! I am interested in seeing how the best Minecraft pvpers skill with out breach swapping I think it would be funny to see Wemmbus reaction to taking this out but please don't change

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    attribute swapping is a part of pvp tech

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    nah its not supposed to be a feature

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    i WILL quit this game if this happens. swapping has become so normal to me that it should stay, i dont see a reason to get rid of it.

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    Attribute Swapping Should be removed yeah, but making it so swapping has a delay makes no sense and kills pvp. If anything I say we nerf mace and spear mace pvp because these are the only weapons that makes attribute swapping overly overpowered 

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    IT'S STUPID ASF

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    Revert back

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    dont remove attribute swapping the pvp community will definitely hate it

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    IMO this is a rlly bad change for PvP yes I’ve only been piping since November of 2024 but I’ve gotten pretty good and attribute swapping and stun webs are apart of my play style so please Minecraft revert this change it will kill the PvP scene if u don’t

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    It is a part of the game. If you were to take it out, many people wouldn't be happy. It is the same thing as with tnt-dupers and breaking bedrock. It is a part of Minecraft

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    removing this ruins the game

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    ADD ATTRIBUTE SWAPPING BACKKKK

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    Can’t even fast anchor and fast crystal anymore…

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    The Minecraft Attribute Swap, or “Bug” as it used to be, is a highly helpful, and at this point, a completely routine part of the game. Microsoft, I really do understand your reasons for wanting this “bug” gone, but at this point in time, is it really still a bug? Take a potato chip for instance. 72% of people like potato chips, and a lot of Microsoft employees may be some of those people. Anyways... Potato chips were created completely by accident, and yet now, people make them in packages and bags. They sell them. It may have been a mistake at first, but wasn’t it a good one? 

    Going back to the Attribute Swap; It may have been a mistake at first– an accident. But now, is it not just part of the game? The above paragraph mentions the Nether roof, such as how a player can Ender pearl-glitch through it. Yes, maybe at one point that was a bug or mistake, but now, is it not a part of the game? Are there not millions of videos that include it? 

    Tell me, Microsoft, are you really going to force millions of people to include a plug-in on their server, or to stay on older versions, just to clear up a bug? Will you not lose more people that way? Who will go on the newer and newer versions you are making? I suspect very few. A tiny portion of all who play Minecraft normally. To conclude, Microsoft, please do not remove the Attribute Swap bug, because I honestly feel like it will end up worse for everyone.

    Thank you,

    -A devoted Minecraft PvP player and Attribute Swap user

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    Please Dont

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    Enable stuns back