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Revert the 26.2-pre-2 changes on Attribute Swapping

On the latest snapshot you can no longer quickly swap from one item to another and retain its attributes/use case. This change not only patched PvP techniques (breach swapping, lunge swapping, ...) used by tens if not hundreds of thousands of players, but it also makes performing actions quickly much more difficult.

For example, a use case of the previous item switching system was a technique often referred to as 'Breach Swapping'. By holding a fully charged Netherite Sword with an attribute of 8 attack damage you would quickly switch to a Mace with the Breach IV enchantment and click. What this would do is take the attack damage of the sword and practically apply it to the Mace, making the Mace deal the sword's damage while retaining its properties of performing smash attacks and being enchanted with breach.

This 'bug' is no longer simply an error in the game's code, as its been in the game for so long that it has been accepted by players as a staple of the game rather than a problem that needs to be fixed.

This still stands after 26.2-pre-3, since they claim that Attribute Swapping will be patched in future snapshots.

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    Please revert this mojang, the pvp community begs this of yal

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    keep attribute swapping you bedrock loving pigs

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    Attribute swapping was definitely a nightmare for game design but removing it outright kills fast paced pvp in a single update.

    Since attribute swapping was such an integral part of pvp, I think this calls for a pvp related update that, while removing attribute swapping, add other pvp related mechanics to make high level pvp still viable, like a new 1.9 pvp update, and defer the removal of attribute swapping until said update is complete.

    And also please let us swap to and use things at different hotbar slots at 20 tps but just without attribute swapping, I consider this current implementation which causes 3 tick anchors and such to be impossible very unintuitive.

    Please mojang even if you don't revert the removal of attribute swapping at least do something else along with it and definitely don't go with this implementation of it on its own.

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    if attribute swapping is removed im going back to playing survival and building houses bro.

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    If they remove atturibute swaping 90% of pvp will no-longer be as it was, effects of the removal will be
    Stuns Removed,

    Spear/density/breach swaping Removed,

    Xbows/instacarts drastically gaining in skill 

     And any kit that requires hotbars to move a lot like  crystalpvp, pot, debuff, and others will be completely ruined.

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    I have spent hundreds of ours mastering this as a pvp skill. Removing it would not just waste so much time for me and many others, but completely destroy so many aspects of pvp. A gamerule to toggle this would be a reasonable compromise, but I would definitely be really upset that this was removed. 

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    I can understand why Mojang would want to remove attribute swapping, but there's just no way that the cooldown trick to disable shields should be removed.

    With the way the game works right now, you can attribute swap to get the sword's damage and the axe's shield disabling in one hit at the expense of hitting slightly slower. If they removed attribute swapping, every failed attempt at predicting your opponent's shield would do almost no damage, and trying to disable your opponent's shield would become a lot more risky.

    This would enable a really annoying playstyle where you can hold your shield up to bait your opponent into swapping to their axe and swinging immediately, just for you to put your shield down at the last second, causing them to land a hit that does almost no damage and allowing you to not get your shield disabled. With attribute swapping, your opponent would be able to time their inputs in a way where if you do decide to lower your shield at the last second, their attack will still do full sword damage.

    If Mojang really wants to remove attribute swapping, maybe they could at least make a game rule that adds it back. And if they're worried that everyone will just turn that game rule on, then maybe they shouldn't remove it in the first place.

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    Hello pls dont remove attribute swapping, my minecraft gameplau is perfkt with swap but no swap no skill man you knwo so pls minecraft if you love me pls dont remove it

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    Theres a reason why this wasnt patched for so long. This feature is NEEDED. Mojang doesnt understand how important this is.

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    PLEASE MOJANG LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE

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    Revert the changes please

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    plz fix it

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    Removing this would ruin the game for so many people and remove some game modes alltogetger

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    attribute swapping is very important for pvp it would hurt the game to remove it

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    addd artribute swaping back we need cooldown trick

     

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    yoo salah

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    effects literallly everything it looks like... mcleagues has a really good explanation about it

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    please keep this i want to keep being a pro player in crystal pvp - anchorcheatsmain EU

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    mojang ruining pvp comm evry 3 months

    first remove old crystal kb
    then remove stuns
    and now artribute swaping
    if mojang dont add this bug the same thing gnna happen like beetween 1.8 and 1.9

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    i would bet every dollar i have that there was not a single decent pvper involved in this decision

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    This change doesn't affect most people, but very negatively affects most pf the pvp community. Please bring it back.

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    removing it would make pvp more chill im fine with that

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    I believe this is actually disgraceful as it has been in the game for YEARS and basically accepted as a feature rather than a bug that needed fixing which doesn't even have 1 single positive effect except for lowering the player count and splitting the community again as it was done in the change from 1.8.9 to 1.9 And if it were such a bug it would've needed to be fixed years ago as it is a well known technique that many non pvpers even know and just accepted as a feature so this Change is actually disgraceful and just another attempt to split the community unnecessarily once again. Please change your Mind about this and bring the attribute swapping (which literally didn't bother anyone ) back.

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    These changes add so much delay to every input after swapping so many different inputs will end up ghosting making some things unplayable

     

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    Since the release of 1.21 almost 2 years ago, the mace has been one of the most popular items and new drops to the whole game. It has contributed a lot for PvP and for it to be a good PvP gamemode, attribute swapping has helped a lot. Even though it is clarified as a bug, most of the PvP community wants it back because otherwise kits and PvP styles will have to change. And not anyone can just attribute swap. It takes time to perfection it.

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    Please keep it, it is essential to pvp as we all know and love thanks for supporting this cause

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    This is a terrible feature in my oppinon everything becomes slower, pvp becomes unplayable and SMP are not going to be fun at all, most people play java for the better pvp experience cus its better than bedrock pvp. With this feature you guys will lose more than 5 million players

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    Attribute Swapping is a key thing to modern PvP, and will destroy communities and a way people enjoy the game (being PVP) While Attribute swapping doesnt fully inflict Survival Minecraft this Removal only effects PvP part of the community

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    Pls don't I do mace and spear

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    Mojang please revert this change. Attribute swapping is now considert a feature, not a bug. If you go with this... It will effect almost every gamemode. Some examples are CartPvP, CrystalPvP, MacePvP and a lot more. And if you really go with this then most of the community WILL be angry.
    I hope that this petition gets to you Mojang and if you look at the number of votes you will see how many people hate this change. And also count the people that dont know about this petition.