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Sniffer Rework

Rework goal:

1. Currently, there are 5 tall flowers in the game; Sunflower, Lilac, Peony, and Rose Bush. The Sniffer can find 11 new tall flower seeds in the game, for a total of 16 tall flowers, one for each color. All tall flowers including the pitcher plant would duplicate if given bonemeal.

2. The seed loot table differs in different types of ground: dirt, rooted dirt, coarse dirt, sand, red sand, gravel, mycelium, podzol, moss, clay, mud, snow, and terracotta.

3. The sniffer breeds if given the full-grown plant instead of the seed.

4. The torchflower glows.

 

Design intention:

1. This rework introduces higher accessibility for players due to more options to obtain dye. Higher accessibility leads to better development of more colorful and creative builds. This rework does not render other means of dye farming useless, rather than incentivizes the players to go out and explore to utilize the 1.20 mechanics that they often overlooked, to actually get a sniffer.

2. To introduce a new set of challenges and incentivize exploration, players must go out of their way to seek soil variants that are needed as a prerequisite for the sniffer to find the new seeds. This prevents staleness in the player experience, as they gather things to build the new sanctuary for the sniffers.

3. I think it's more intuitive to use the fully grown flowers based on my own firsthand experience. This also incentivizes the players to grow the seeds.

4.  I think it's a missed opportunity not to.

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    I'd say that the idea itself is ok.
      Sniffers being able to find and dig up more ancient plants, BOTH small and tall, would give more incentive for players to try and get them. Obviously Ancient Rose and Ancient Cyan/Blue Rose need a mention ;)
      Gravel, snow and terracotta do sound a bit iffy, but different soils for different seed pools (even if the pools do overlap a bit with each other) could definitely work (even it I personally am indifferent to this idea)
      The bonemealing of ancient plants for duplication is also somewhat iffy, if you really want it, I'd make it a low chance, like 1/10th or 1/16th per bonemeal to duplicate it - as to not make it too easy and to show that the plants are so ancient that even their reproduction/duplication is somewhat broken.
      I'd go for the same chance with Sniffer breeding - either make it so the breeding attempt might end up dropping a sniffer egg, or results in nothing - also to not make the acquisition of many Sniffers to easy and to show that they're relics for many reasons - like the fact that it's hard for them to breed - AND to still leave ppl thinking about just searching for more Sniffer Eggs. Maybe make it a 1/5th, or 1/8th, or 1/12th?

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    Replying to:
    https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/36578722578701/comments/36604487688205

    Thanks for the feedback! 

     

    Obviously Ancient Rose and Ancient Cyan/Blue Rose need a mention ;)

    Sure, I would welcome relics from Minecraft's past versions to be added to the game :D It plays to the fantasy element of the game well.

     

    Gravel, snow and terracotta do sound a bit iffy, but different soils for different seed pools (even if the pools do overlap a bit with each other) could definitely work.

    I see your point, but I think gravel, snow, and terracotta are a better fit than the stone/ore block derivatives. I want to list every soil-y type block from every biome throughout the world, although some are not in fact soil. 

     

    The bonemealing of ancient plants for duplication is also somewhat iffy, if you really want it, I'd make it a low chance...

    The goal for my idea of a rework is higher accessibility to obtain dye. I disagree that introducing a random factor to the system would help. If we can make it less easy, I prefer that we change bonemealing ALL tall flowers to produce their own respective seeds (including the original 4). That way it's still accessible and reliable, although more effort is needed to maintain the production line.

     

    I'd go for the same chance with Sniffer breeding...

    Yes, them dropping an egg is a perfect approach like how the turtles do.

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    Maybe also add a sniffer flower useful for something other than dye, like a lot of the community has been requesting?