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More Banner Layers

Simply upping the amount of banner layers in survival by one would create the possibility for so many more patterns, but to keep it uniform, increase by a multiple of 2. Take the current layer limit of 6 and increase it to 8. Or, if you Mojang folks are feeling rebellious, try 10 layers! However, if you've really lost all your marbles, you could even increase it up to something like 24! Be aware that after a certain point, adding more layers will slow down the amount of creative possibilities that come with the addition, meaning that the addition would be near pointless for the amount of NBT data added, so I would go with something reasonable like 8, 10, or maybe 12 if you're really up for it. Having a pillager banner in the game that you can't recreate makes it rare, but it also feels cheap. When you realize that the game has a limit on banner layers and you ask someone why that is, you should be able to say, "We already have enough and adding more wouldn't drastically increase creativity," not, "I don't really know." The point is, when it comes to banner layer limits, there is not point. Limits on the amount of layers is like you guys at Mojang saying, "Let's limit their artistic capabilities!" If there's a banner limit, have a reason. And when you realize that you can't find a good way to justify your arbitrary limits, give up players more freedom in Minecraft, a sandbox game.

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    I Think The Amount Of Banner Layers Should Be Somewhere Between 7 - 12 Layers Personally

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    This is something I used to be able to achieve on my server with a plugin. With 1.14+ and the loom, it appears a plugin cannot fix it anymore. Regardless, I'm sure the original 6 pattern limit was instated as a way to prevent lag. With more modern versions of the game and in my own testing with a base full of 10+ pattern banners, I never noticed a bit of lag. I believe there is a hard limit of somewhere around 16 layers which as OP has said, is probably around the limit of creativity where adding more doesn't really yield more varied banners.

    On the point of the pillager banner being unique and rare as it cannot be crafted in survival, it would retain its unique nature in that it has a different colored name that cannot be given in survival, so a replica, player created pillager banner would not be as special despite looking similar.

    I'd love to see this banner pattern limit raised so I don't have to rely on data packs to achieve something that is already technically possible.

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    6 is too low for an amount of layers IMO. There should be bore, at least 8-10.

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    I also want this very badly

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    There is a lot that could be done if they increased the limit to eight layers. For one, the letter B can become craftable, as B is the only letter in the Latin alphabet which cannot be made in survival, which means persons using letter banners need cheats enabled to have the letter in their survival world.

    I find this unacceptable, as a person whose name begins with the letter B. But also, there are other minor details in existing patterns which can be added with a couple extra layers. I run banner shops on every server I stick around in long-term with a shop plugin, people love what can create with six layers. Imagine the possibilities if I am allowed eight, ten or even twelve layers.

    And it isn't like, this would affect rolling back the game unless the snout pattern doesn't exist. In that case, if Mojang provisioned banner making properly components which do not exist, would not display in existing banners using new design elements released prior to 1.16.

    More layers for 1.18 Mojang? Pretty please? Most people's PCs have improved since their release!

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    I have been Minecraft since 2012 and only just found out about this limit yesterday but it flies in the face of the creative, sandbox game Minecraft was always made to be. A limit needs to be set somewhere of course, but a limit of 10 or 12 would DRAMATICALLY improve players' ability to create a personalized banner (what banners were made for). Please consider upping the banner pattern cap, for the love of sanity.

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    Six levels are not enough. 10 levels is 👍👍👍

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    I believe that the limit for banners should be 12, I've been trying to make banners using commands, but they don't seem to work. I think I speak for many Minecraft players when I say that we need more variety.