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Redstone sharing a block space with slabs(Java & Bedrock)

I know this is a big ask, because slabs would have to be completely overhauled but it would be so awesome I had to suggest it. it would also make a better way to "cut" redstone lines.

Edit: I have been thinking about this recently and have come up with a less complicated way to implement this feature. A block state could be added to redstone components similar to "waterlogged", possibly called "slabbed". It would probably apply to redstone dust, repeaters, and comparators because they visually only take up half a block anyway. If the player tries to place a slab in the same block as one of those components it will become "slabbed" rendering the top slab and changing the top of the block to solid making it able to support other blocks like redstone components.   

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    Could you explain better how this would work?  I thought I understood what you were talking about until you talked about "cutting" redstone lines.

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    So I think a picture will work better. 

    The redstone line on the bottom will still weakly power the block but will not power the dot of dust on top

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    And to male it simpler to code maybe it should only work with stone slabs.

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    Seems like a great idea for making redstone circuits a bit more compact.

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    I don't think you could implement this as a block state like waterlogging very easily. In Bedrock at least, waterlogging required a profound revision to the way blocks are represented in the game and in save files. It was worth all that work for waterlogging because it changed the entire game, but all that work for just one block type seems very expensive. So it would most likely have to be implemented as a new block that *looks and acts* like a slab and redstone dust but isn't either one, and you'd have to convert slabs and dust to and from it when placing and breaking them. There problem here is that it isn't seamless: How would you indicate whether you were trying to break the slab part or the dust part? There's no other block that needs such a distinction, and you can't get around the problem by saying "break them both" because the result would be unintuitive: they *look and act* like two separate blocks in every other way.

    Are you thinking about this only for a top slab, where the bottom half would have one of seven redstone dust configurations (including the dot)? Or are you also thinking of redstone dust (in the same seven configurations) on top of a bottom slab, which would enable redstone wires in vertically adjacent block positions? That would nicely solve a lot of problems with wire crossovers that make a device ridiculously tall.

    Implementing the top slab version seems more complicated, because the game would have to check for a block that can support redstone dust underneath it when you add the dust under the slab. In addition, anything that moves or breaks the block underneath would have to convert the block into the equivalent dustless slab and drop a dust. I think that would be the only case of a block that isn't (visually) broken dropping an item, so it's uncharted waters, which might mean there would be some surprises trying to make it work.

    Both top and bottom slab versions would also have to have all the behavior of redstone dust, with its varying brightness levels and particle effects.

    I like this idea and would be pleased if it were implemented. I just think it would take an enormous amount of work.

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    What would happen if you had a redstone line, and then one of the redstone dusts was replaced with a top slab. Would the redstone go under, or over the slab?

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    This needs to be in game for two major reasons:

    1. It makes logical sense

    2. More possible redstone creations

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    This needs to be implemented to allow for more compact redstone circuits.

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    Currently, a "staircase" of top slabs with a layer of redstone on top can carry a signal upwards. This is likely a bug, however it is currently used in a variety of circuits in vertical towers, no-delay diodes, etc. How would this "feature" be affected by these changes?

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    love the idea i think other blocks should be able to share a space with other blocks to

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    2 kinds of slabs should also be able to take 1 space

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    Hidden redstone mechanisms.

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    Why not? Redstone dust takes up more than a full hitbox.

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    I mean less than.

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    @Willem H. This idea will not effect slab staircases at all. As long as all of the dust is sitting on top of a slab and not sharing a block it will act as normal. It will actually not be using this feature at all.

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    no dead serious i would love this, i was building a doorbell in my pixelmon world and it bothered me i had to place a whole block to cover the redstone rather than just being able to place a slab- made the inside look kinda odd-