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Logic Gate

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    karl smink commented
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    Good to see someone else had this idea. 

    Having to recreate basic circuit components with 4-12 blocks is not only tiring, but it makes fitting them into certain spaces practically impossible. 

    If redstone/minecraft had ACTUAL logic gate blocks, you could easily market this as an educational addition, because it would be exactly that. 

    Adding true Boolean Logic to singlular blocks would make building certain contraptions MUCH simpler. 

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    Or maybe even a transistor gate.  

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    I think this is a bad idea. I love being able to construct logic gates purely out of inversions (redstone torches). it helps me understand them better and i think the redstone computing community would dislike this because it takes away the challenge in creating "compact" circuts

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    creepperklr2 commented
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    I really like this idea.  I really do.  I wonder what ingredients you would need.  I really hope to see this.

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    I think the idea is good and usefully more like an end game or mid game item made from redstone dust, torches and other mid game items. The reason why I support is that it will make the redstone computers smaller and faster but open more possibility for redstone devices like subway system and other it will turn 3 or 4 tick adders to 1 tick I look forward for it. It sounds overpowered but will not be it could utilise the truth table logic. There also exist a mod for this but for Java only.

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    RightWay490 commented
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    I really liked your idea!

    My suggestion: logic gates NOT, AND, OR, NAND, NOR, XOR and XNOR could be different blocks rather than just one.

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    Auldrick commented
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    As some have mentioned, separate components for Boolean functions would be more convenient to use, but I'd prefer a single programmable gate for several reasons: (1) It requires less development work (separate components would need individual textures and coding), (2) it's more flexible because it makes every Boolean function on 2 variables available, versus the standard AND, OR, XOR, NAND, NOR, XNOR, IMP, and EQV (if even that many were implemented), and (3) it teaches Boolean logic and how to use truth tables, important skills for the digital age that too few people are exposed to. And for those already familiar with them, programming any of the standard functions would hardly take 2 seconds.

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    elgatolalo360 commented
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    It's a great idea I have gates in my worlds but the truth is if they are big, an AND occupies 4x4x3 blocks that could be reduced to one or two would be great.

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    Jonah Ryman commented
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    I think this would be great! It would allow you to save space, especially if you were building non conventional gates. I thought of a recipe too:
    rtr r=redstone
    tct t=redstone torch
    rtr c=cobblestone

    This would save a lot of space and eliminate the need for the repetitive logic gate mods that are seen frequently!

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    XOXDawidPro commented
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    No, I disagree. The simple love of making huge computers and programmable contraptions (you heard me right) is the reason many people play this game. Adding such powerful block would remove the fun in many things that made minecraft so great in the first place. I believe additions should be made only if totally impossible before (block placers, etc).

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    evanrv05 commented
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    I see where your coming from. but every redstoner i know would HATE this feature. the complexity is part of the fun. it would also basically make redstone repeaters and stuff semi useless.

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    HenryCOOLini commented
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    Very bad idea. This limits creativity a lot.

    We already can make logic gates very easily. People have made computers in this game. The complexity is part of the fun, and I'm pretty sure most redstoners will agree with me.

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    snoopydaniels commented
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    I've read many objections to the idea of logic gate blocks and they are all silly. Introducing logic blocks won't stop anyone from building logic gates the old fashioned way if they enjoy mindless, repetitive activities. And if you like "complexity" then you can just use the new logic blocks to build stuff that's even more complex than anything you built before.

    As an educational tool, forcing players to re-implement logic gates over and over and over again is pointless. In the real world, once you solve a computational problem, you encapsulate that logical problem in a module so you never have to deal with it again if you don't want to. You don't keep reinventing the wheel. Players would learn more by seeing how logic can be abstracted.

    On top of all of this, redstone behavior in Minecraft is just plain stupid and always has been. I'm not even sure that most of it was intentional to begin with as opposed to an unintentional byproduct of some sort of bug. You have to memorize nonsensical rules about how the various redstone components power neighboring blocks and how they behave when powered. In part this is because you can't place redstone dust vertically, so you have to invent implict rules for power to magically teleport up and down and through some blocks and not others. This all makes Minecraft logic gates and circuits way more complicated and confusing than actual, real world logic circuits that perform the same tasks.

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    Jonah Ryman commented
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    evanrv05 HenryCOOLini

     

    I guess I really don't understand the "complexity" issue, as I am not a redstoner myself.

    I prefer modded minecraft, and seeing this being a feature would remove the need for those hundreds of samey logic gate mods that basically do the same thing and get bunches of downloads.

    But people in the modded community don't really want to make the same gate with 30 blocks, 100 times because they just prefer convenience over challenge. Vanilla players probably prefer the challenge instead.

    So I can see why this would ruin the aspect of vanilla minecraft being challenging, especially for redstoners.