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Petition to Revert Movement Changes MC-271065 and MC-241951 (WE WIN THESE!)

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THANK YOU MOJANG FOR LISTENING TO US!!!!

- Erasmian <3

On behalf of the parkour and speedbridging communities, bug fixes MC-271065 and MC-241951 need to be reverted. Furthermore, these are actually considered features to many high-level parkour players and speed-bridgers, and should be classified as such.

Taking away the 40% speed increase along the diagonal will hurt a lot of mechanics, maps, and techniques that depend on this, both in parkour and speedbridging. Such a major rework will hurt these communities in the long and short term. This "bug" has established use in these communities, and will frankly affect more than just them. For example, as a user shared here, building in survival will be much more tedious, since placing blocks will be considerably slower on roofs, for example.

Also, taking away the individual axis cancellation of movement at slow speeds significantly impacts sidestep, which is hugely important in parkour and speedbridging. This is a common effect in video games often implemented purposefully, such as b-hopping in CS:GO or Quake. It will negatively impact the movement experience in Minecraft and make it more wooden and stiff.

I think there is no need to implement any of these changes. This will affect the casual experience by purposefully nerfing player movement, and it will affect high-level play significantly; that, in turn, will hurt Minecraft's longevity and force players to older versions. Please, Mojang, do NOT implement these changes.

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    i may not do a lot of minecraft parkour, but this change feels the same as if roblox were to change its physics engine completely (it nearly happened once) and destroying thousands of unique obbies and obbying mechanics that were made and discovered by communities involved, accumulated for years in the process... mojang, please don't.

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    I can understand Mojang's want for parity, but why must they chose the worst out of the two options? While it is slower on Bedrock, Java has clearly established that this movement is greatly beneficial and plays a large role in parkour and movement communities.

    Therefore, why can't Bedrock have their movement increased instead?

    This would achieve parity between the two versions and provide the bedrock player base with the benefits that the current installation of Java movement provides. 

    "Patching" this "bug" solves little, and only acts to create large problems that the current userbase has to deal with, as discussed largely in other comments. Therefore, Mojang should either change nothing, or instead change Bedrock.

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    There was never a bug. The new version is worse, please revert them Mojang!

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    Mojang, we don't need 1.22 to be like 1.9. Just don't patch a decade old bug. Not all bugs are meant to be patched. Minecraft just isn't that fun anymore without those fun mechanics. And when there's a really old bug that everyone uses and it's not like a dupe, it's completely OK to leave it in as a feature, especially if it's fun, which these ones are. Please. I rely on this petition to keep playing Minecraft. Otherwise I'll never open a 1.22+ version in my life!

    well fortnite will not seem that bad after all if this doesn't get through directly to mojang's brain AI thingy

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    Mojang: Guys, let's nerf Java so it has bedrock parity!

    Community: Couldn't you just, like, make bedrock movement the same as Java? Instead of removing a mechanic.

    Mojang: ...

    Community: ...

    Mojang: Do you think i ever listen to you?

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    wow

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    请求恢复请求恢复请求恢复请求恢复请求

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    vote for this,it's really normal in most game

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    THIS!

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    disgusting. why would they EVER EVEN THINK OF ADDING THIS

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    Short and Simple, WE DON'T WANT IT. So change back to what it was.

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    Minecraft was and is still going to continue to be ruined by microsoft

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    hope this does something, given mojang's history i doubt it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I dont agree with this change at all. 45 degree angle strafe was so cool. and if this nerf stays in minecraft. I'm going to stick to 1.21. Also i hope Mojang reverts jumping off of 2 blocks takes fall damage. this snapshot is terrible

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    i didnt care that much at first

    UNTIL I SAW SOMEONE BRIDGING WITH IT 
    MY GOD IT WAS SLOW

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    Literally had to reset my microsoft password and I still did just because this is THAT important to me. I like, never get involved in this kinda stuff and even I know this change was bad for the game's future.

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    It makes sense youre faster in the diagonals since you need to travel further to go the same about of blocks

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    strange change. Revert at once please

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    let's hope that mojang listens to this post and reverts it in the next snapshot.

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    great idea! now add a short delay before you start accelerating when falling so people stop jumping around everywhere/SARCASM

    in all seriousness one of the things i love about minecraft is the way that its developed its own organic body language over the past 15 ish years. i didn't know about this yesterday but there is no benefit to removing it and it has both tangible (as pointed out by others) and just plain annoying side effects

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    Agreed. I use 1.8.9 forge. Just because of these changes. like PvP update. 45 Strafe patch, PvP Strafe patch. and I like the servers. It's much better than 1.9+ or any other 1.9+ server there is. Mr.Beast should shout this post out so it blows up. so if your reading and you know mrbeasts contact. tell him this :D

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    Instead of fixing random daeths they're fixing things that players like XD

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    i also wish that the fall damage changes would be reverted as well since it is incredibly annoying

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    PLEASE REVERT THIS I CANT BE BRIDGING SO SLOW PLEASE

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    I think once something has been in the game for like a decade, and is openly a used feature of the mechanics to the point where people will tell you that the game works that way, and actively plan to use the feature... Than it isn't a bug. That's just how the game mechanic works. It's a feature. It makes sense to remove the extra speed diagonally in SOME games, but there really is no reason to do that for Minecraft. Especially after having it be this way for so long. This is just pointless work to change something no one wanted changed. You just nerfed every single player's movement in the entire player base.

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    this is not a bug mojang revert this change please it sucks

     

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    This will destroy both pvp and lots of minigames, pls don't implement this change mojang!

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    I've been playing Minecraft for 6-7 years, and I hate to see Mojang making the game worse instead of better. I would love to see Mojang listen to the players and not make the decisions themselves. I don't want this game to die because of the creators' bad choices. 

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    This is no way they're removing this. This is a feature minecraft, keep it one.

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    Apperently this bug was fixed for "parity with bedrock". This update nerfs bridging with 2 keys ( S +A or S + D) while being crouched or speed bridging which is tapping crouch rhythmically. Bedrock players don't even need to bridge anyways because they can just place blocks where they look at. Why nerf java where people actually need to bridge looking at a block??? Why not give bedrock diagonal speed and make everyone happy?

    Or if you care about "parity" so much, give java block placement mechanic like bedrock or take it away from bedrock so they have to bridge like java? 

    "For parity reasons, we are fixing this decade old small bug, that WILL ANGER EVERYONEE! YAAAAY! But oh no! There is this HUGE difference between two versions, yeah, thats gonna stay like that. :< SUCK IT JAVA!"