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Request to Continue Providing PDB Files in Future BDS Versions

Dear Mojang Studios,
 
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing on behalf of many in the Bedrock Dedicated Server community to express our concern regarding the removal of PDB files in the latest preview version (1.21.10). Historically, PDB files have been crucial for debugging and maintaining plugins loader that enhance the BDS experience. Their absence in future releases could have severe negative impacts on our community.
 
PDB files provide essential debugging information that allows developers to create and maintain plugins loader effectively. Without these files, updating and ensuring plugin compatibility with new BDS versions becomes exceedingly difficult, potentially leading to a decline in available custom plugins and tools.
 
A lot of bedrock servers rely on a wide range of plugins to offer unique experiences and manage server operations. The lack of PDB files hinders the ability to debug and update these plugins loader, which could result in server closures and negatively affect the player community.
 
While we understand the security concerns that may have led to this decision, we believe alternative measures can address these issues without compromising development needs.
 
We urge the BDS development team to reconsider the removal of PDB files. Maintaining these files is vital for the continued health and growth of the BDS community. We hope to finding a solution that addresses security while supporting development.
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    plea, it would be very nice.

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    Critical for the server ecosystem

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    we need this

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    Mojang and Microsoft, what are you doing?

    As the post above describes, in the preview version of Bedrock Edition's server pack for 1.21.10, all PDB files have been removed in opposite of the communities long ongoing request for full PDB files. This change was silenced and not mentioned in any of the versions patch/release notes. Myself and many others are not sure if you (Microsoft/Mojang) are aware of how drastic and severe the actions you are taking regarding "fixing bugs" and "stopping exploits" is when you remove PDB files. The impact for standalone Bedrock servers (those who are not in a partnership program with Microsoft/Mojang) and community made modifications for the game (excluding exploits) is severe. A large majority of server plugin creators use the PDB files to fix bugs and prevent exploits in their plugins to allow standalone servers to have a better experience without requiring a large team to handle each individual problem. Many "mod" creators are also drastically affected by this change due to not having access to the officially supported and developed Bedrock Edition protocol documentation (as of right now). Projects such as BDSX, LeviLamina and Amethyst (BDSX and LeviLamina being around for years while Amethyst being relatively new) have either been cancelled or have ended support for future versions.

    Mojang and Microsoft, we as a community beg of you to revert this change and allow the developers of the Bedrock Edition community to develop once again.

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    Let's be honest - no documentation effort will ever replace good old PBDs. You want to improve security by hiding things - this doesn't work, threat actor are very often good at disassembly. You're mostly shooting the foot of modders which are helpful in patching security vulnerabilities, since they want to play without cheaters. Reconsider your course of action.

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    as a modder of other games this seems to be extremely important to this game's modding community, please restore it

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    Minecraft is a game that is predicated on creativity, it should be kept open as a creative platform in all valid aspects. I am not a modder, but have nothing but respect for the art of it. Microsoft and Mojang need to remain cognizant of what makes Minecraft great, and the role that that has had in the success the game still carries for the better part of two decades. It is the creative spirit of the community that keeps this game going. We have no obligation to support this game, it is out of love and respect that keeps us here. If this love and respect is not returned, we won't.

    So please, release the pdb files.
    It's the least you could do.

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    Mojang, Please 

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    This is very important for modding in BE, please reconsider Mojang

     

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    PLEASE

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    Please Microsoft. This is important and the game would suffer for the lack of this.

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    Please keep

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    Don't kill bedrock modding mojang this will not stop hackers and it will give server owners a way harder time protecting their servers from hackers

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    Microsoft is making a trashcan out of this game. we need to stop this.

    The onlyhope for bedrock is Microsoft listening to the community or reselling the game. If this continues, it'll be dead in like five years.

     

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    Dear bedrock team, please consider contiue providing the pdb file. It's really essential for us modders to find bugs our mods so they don't break the game.
    Try to make a mod without it or the source code, it's time consuming and or almost even impossible.

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    Removing PDB files hurts modders, who work out of love for the game, while leaving hackers unaffected, who work for money. Malicious users will always find a way to reverse-engineer the code, removing PDBs just makes it harder for legitimate users.

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    Just let bedrock be modded its not a bad idea

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    Please leave pdb in the game, it keeps it going.

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    Minecraft is a heavily community-based game. PDB is vital to the Bedrock community. Removing PDBs would ruin the Minecraft Bedrock community.

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    If parity between Java and bedrock is truly to exist, bedrock players deserve the same privileges as Java players

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    fellow java player supporting little brother

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    Please Mojang don't kill the game

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    PDB IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US

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    please 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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    100% a need 

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    PLEASE BRING IT BACK

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    Just do it

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    this message is 34 characters long

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    The Bedrock community needs this.

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    please do it Mojang, it won't destroy the game