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PLEASE add a damage cap/limit on the spear - it breaks competitive PVP.

  • Overview: so hear me out..... the spear is supposed to be used on horses... make its damage proportional to its supposed usage -- say for example: the fastest horse goes 15 units... and with that speed, the spear does 25 points of damage, make the damage cap/limit 30 or 35 damage points... see what i mean? not making it weaker, just not making it game-breakingly over-powered

 

  • Why does it break PVP for competitive players?: you see, in competitive pvp, we use elytra and rockets(fireworks) to go really fast (we do that with the mace too, i'll explain how it's different than the mace tho in the "Why it's better than the mace?" section) people keep comparing it to the mace, even though it's actually BETTER than the mace (i'll explain why down below)..... if you add a damage limit, then it won't break PVP, BUT ALSO won't change anything about how it's used with horses whatsoever... see? everybody is happy

 

  • Why it's stronger than the mace?:

1. most importantly: it works on speed rather than distance... speed can be gained instantaneously (using a rocket with an elytra gives you INSTANT velocity), BUT distance CAN'T be gained instantaneously

2. it's multi-directional, so not only can you hit vertically, but also COMPLETELY horizontally (i can't emphasize enough how broken that is) (remember, we're talking about using an elytra and rockets, that's how competitive PVPers play)

3. it's super cheap to make

 

frankly it shouldn't even COMPETE with the mace, it's literally a diagonal shovel...

 

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    • I got even more arguments for and why it's BETTER than the mace, but i reached the character limit lol

     

    • the mace was PROUDLY announced as the strongest weapon in the game a year ago, with PRIDE... the mace dealing infinite damage is a part of its core functionality, it's a part of its brand, plus... believe it or not, the mace is SURPRISINGLY balanced in competitive PVP... so the spear shouldn't COMPETE whatsoever... the mace should be the only weapon that deals infinite damage.

     

    • even from a game design perspective... how does a spear deal infinite damage? why wouldn't a shovel deal infinite damage (it's literally the same crafting recipe), why wouldn't a sword deal infinite damage? the spear is quite literally just a longer version of the sword..... it doesn't make sense from a game design perspective whatsoever......
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    Damage cap? The mace is EASILY better than the spear in damage, you can go infinite blocks up whenever you want, at what place you want. But with the spear, if you want ALOT of speed, you need to build a redstone machine that boosts you and etc.

     

    Also, to the 'everybody is happy' message that you said, I'm not sure about that one, more people would be angry than happy. And if it breaks PvP, servers can easily program a plugin with a damage cap, if that is what they want. Or, just dont play it

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    The spear is really janky when I try to use it

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    i tested it, wooden spears take 4 hits to kill an elder guardian with elytra + firework rocket boost. that is a kill in less hits than a netherite sword would need.

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    I think the spear needs to have a durability that breaks the harder you hit something. Considering how cheap it is to make, being pretty much just a shovel, I disagree with the comment about ignoring it. In multiplayer, you don't always get that choice. 

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    Yeah, I tested it on the snapshot and It's overpowered.

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    I agree, maybe some sort of cap on damage, or if not maybe all durability is removed and it breaks over a certain damage? That would be better since its already a pretty cheap weapon.

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    They should just nerf the damage it is when combined with an elytra. Same with the mace but only when fall damage is off but that’s a whole new discussion.