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Petition to Revert Movement Changes MC-271065 and MC-241951 (WE WIN THESE!)

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THANK YOU MOJANG FOR LISTENING TO US!!!!

- Erasmian <3

On behalf of the parkour and speedbridging communities, bug fixes MC-271065 and MC-241951 need to be reverted. Furthermore, these are actually considered features to many high-level parkour players and speed-bridgers, and should be classified as such.

Taking away the 40% speed increase along the diagonal will hurt a lot of mechanics, maps, and techniques that depend on this, both in parkour and speedbridging. Such a major rework will hurt these communities in the long and short term. This "bug" has established use in these communities, and will frankly affect more than just them. For example, as a user shared here, building in survival will be much more tedious, since placing blocks will be considerably slower on roofs, for example.

Also, taking away the individual axis cancellation of movement at slow speeds significantly impacts sidestep, which is hugely important in parkour and speedbridging. This is a common effect in video games often implemented purposefully, such as b-hopping in CS:GO or Quake. It will negatively impact the movement experience in Minecraft and make it more wooden and stiff.

I think there is no need to implement any of these changes. This will affect the casual experience by purposefully nerfing player movement, and it will affect high-level play significantly; that, in turn, will hurt Minecraft's longevity and force players to older versions. Please, Mojang, do NOT implement these changes.

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    Id love to see the damage taken from 2 blocks hight removed, too, wheres the fun in learning to triple stack when you take like a heart of damage :(

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    IF IT AINT BROKE, WHY WOULD YOU FIX IT?

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    I don't know whose idea this was but this is a terrible change. Making movement slower is something I thought I'd never see from Mojang. Truly disappointing and makes me worry for the future of the game. Just when I was getting excited for all the new features in the recent snapshots too. 

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    If you are still not convinced by all six hundreds comments, just consider looking at TrackMania, a well known game, that was especially known for its physics "bugs", these features, these unintended bugs, over the time, became intended physics behaviour.

    Honestly, I will never download any newer version if this is not reverted.

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    Please change it!!!!!

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    Mojang why!!JUST WHY !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Fixed it was he bug not he nerfs if your source is the discord official server, know that they indicate they bug fix in inverted way, in short they say what this was doing not the post fix current state I did the same error

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    Delete this patch Minecraft.

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    it is nonsense that sneaking diagonally is faster than sneaking straight but the best solution for everyone's fun is to speed up straight sneaking rather than nerfing diagonal

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    I don't play these sorts of challenges, but I voted anyway because I've seen Minecraft developers pull sneaky stuff like this too much now...

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    I don't normally give microsoft/mojang feedback, I mostly play solo survival (both vanilla and modded). I can somewhat speedbridge but not really, I'm definitely not a competitive pvper. I also vehemently disagree with the movement change in the new snapshot, to the point where if it's implemented, I'll stop playing new vanilla minecraft versions, or won't play them without a mod to correct movement. 

    Bug or not, movement is just one of those fundamental things that has been part of the game for a very long time. Similar to "bugs" like sitting in a minecart doesn't lock your viewpoint, or say gaining massive speeds with iceboating. This movement "correction" changes the feel of the game entirely, it's just not minecraft anymore. Please Microsoft/Mojang, let bedrock be bedrock and let java be java!

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    just hope mojang listens to feedback for once

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    I hope Mojang realizes that the reason for this being "parity with bedrock edition" just makes Java players hate Bedrock Edition more, if you want parity, buff movement in Bedrock edition don't nerf Javas. The implication of this bug being patched after 15 years of it existing within the game just ruins player experiences.

    Fun movement is literally the only reason I have stuck with this game for it's 15 year lifespan, I can not imagine what it would do for multiplayer pvp became holding W at your opponent and hoping your opponent misses, what it would do to parkour players if one of the hardest jumps you can do is a cross neo, and what it would do for survival players if getting from point A to point B is that much slower.

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    Mojang casually "fixing" movement that is older than the employees that "fixed" it have been there without asking the community is a clear sign of the downfall we are walking into. I'm not leaving 1.20.1 ever.

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    PVP -> takes skill and requires strafing. -> Walk in a line and hope to get the first hit our hit select.

    Bridging -> simple and easy bridging techniques that are easy to pick up for survival players and noobs -> Now if you want to go at a reasonable speed you need to Godbridge.

    Parkour -> the hardest jump you can do is now a four-block.

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    mojang be fumbling :sob:

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    honestly there was no need to fix something that doesn't need a fix in the first place.....
    that is like the whole discussion about tnt dupers again where someone reported it as a bug....
    or the special Redstone mechanic named bud switch (block update detector) that also got so many times called a bug that should be fixed..... not to mention the copper bulb and crafters speed nerfs bcz of a bug report that thought they are to fast needs to be slower... a change no one asked for....
    there are so many more things and in the end no one of those should be fixed as they are features that makes the game better...


     
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    MOJANG, WHY???????

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    porfa reviertanlo :(

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    the changes destroy the pvp-modes like bedwars

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    why would they do that in the first place lmao

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    I literally thought moving faster like that was part of the game didnt know it was treated as a bug i used to speed bridge like straight backwards holding only S and one day my friend told me about pressing A or D with S and told me it was part of the game

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    Thats right we need it back now mojang

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    Head above the parapet, I support the bug fix and am not voting this. It's not a nerf and it's not nefarious Mojang/Microsoft going out of their way to annoy players, no matter how loudly people shout to the contrary.

    Old maps will still work with the old bugs they were designed around. New maps will be made and tuned to the new (or in this instance, fixed) mechanics, and this time around all players will be able to use them, instead of only the "skilled" players using the "advanced tech" of exploiting bugs.

    At best maybe this is an opportunity to implement a new and intended speed adjustment ability in the game that all players can use.

    It's also pretty concerning to see thousands of users whipped up into this frenzy by an exaggerated YouTube video weaponising people for a linked petition. "Player speed nerfed by 41%!" No it wasn't. Player speed is unchanged. Even this bug fix only reduced situational speed by 29%.

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    fan of Camman18.

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    I don't even play much anymore but came to vote on this because it's awful.

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    I really hope this gets reverted

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    This ruins speed bridging. 

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    "Fix"... 

    The "bug" was there since ever, so is part of the game, DO NOT IMPLEMENT IT!!!

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    In my opinion, if some bugs are not breaking the game, and even help the players in a good way, those shouldn't be removed. Especially if it's 10 years old. I hope this will change the next update.