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1.17 Ore Generation

I was really looking forward to the Cave Update. Strip mining has always been a very tedious way to gain ore in Minecraft but it was always the most effective, and while very boring within a few hours I'd be able to have a decent amount of supplies to work my way through the game. The general idea was that the deeper you go the more rare minerals you'd find, a principal that has existed since as far back as the ores themselves. The past few snapshots have included new ore generation and I have a lot of issues with it. Changing the ore generation to where some ores don't generate at all below certain levels is not a good idea. That's just going to make mining more tedious, requiring players to make multiple levels of mines as it does not seem caves expose more ore than usual. 

Here's my suggestion: Keep the old ore generation above Y 0. Under Y zero increase the ore generation 1.5-2x. Then, have mobs that spawn below Y zero hit harder, have more health, deepslate blocks take longer to mine, and mobs spawn at a much higher light level, making it harder but more rewarding, and in general have caves expose more ore than they did previously and do currently. This would be (in my eyes) MUCH more fun to play than the current new ore gen system. This way the game can maintain consistency as well as incentivize taking on harder challenges, as well as create less reasons to strip mine and to cave instead. I think removing tedium should be the goal with this, not making more tedium.

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    I can only affirm your argument. There is no point in exploring the new beautiful caves when there are so little ores to find.

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    I think this is a good idea but only for the diamonds to increase below y=0,i do also think that it should be more dangerous below y=0 to balance

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    I think having ores spawn more frequently in the deeper caves is actually balanced when you consider the bottom of the world is going to be housing the Deep Dark cave biome with the Warden, a very powerful mob that reacts to vibrations!

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    Honestly, after playing around in the snapshot, the ore generation is fine, but there NEEDS to be coal generating a lot at ALL y-levels, or caving is impossible, because you can't make enough torches to light up the caves as you go.

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    Hi I have been playing Minecraft since 2014 and have tested the 1.17 update and .... where is the iron? I mined for 2 hours with my friends and we couldn't find enough iron to make full armor for all of them. Please Mojang correct it, we want to play minecraft because we love this game not out of nostalgia and not out of novelty, just to play, and we can't play without iron. Thank you very much for paying a little attention to my post. I love minecraft. And I will always love Minecraft.

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    if Mojang don't reverse these changes to ore generation by the time version 1.18 update comes around then I'm afraid I'm going to have to find an alternative sandbox game to play.

    This game becoming more grindy is not what I asked for, nor you or anyone else who replied here, it's as you said going to make mining more tedious, and I might add less rewarding.

     

    Having hostile mobs spawn at light level 9 instead of 7 or below, when players reach coordinate negative Y coordinates would be a far better way to introduce challenge, instead of making the game an endless grind, it shouldn't feel like a hamster in a wheel to get somewhere in the game progression system.