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How to improve spamclicking/autoattack and alternate/heavy/charged attacks

My main criticism with the snapshot combat system:

From 1.9+ perspective: Charging the attacks does not give a major advantage and it's still just better/more optimal to hold the button rather than time the attacks. The whole aspect of timing the attacks and prioritizing the weapon and enemy is gone.

From 1.8 perspective: The new spamclicking and button holding just feels worse than 1.8. Animations are messed up, it no longer feels fast nor heated.

How to make spamclicking and charged attacks more satisfying?

  1. Make shield blocking more of a parry, at least in close combat. Parrying an attack would make the other player get a short cooldown on their weapon. Fast players will still try to spamclick each other while more strategic players will try to disable opponents in order to strike.

  2. There should just be a cooldown before next attack is performed. Players can still spamclick or hold the attack button but the damage per second is fixed. That would make spamclicking feel good.

  3. Make attack animations look the same as mining animations). Just to make combat look better than what we've got in combat tests.

  4. Remake charged attacks for weapons to make 1.9 strategy existant again.

  • Make charged attacks charge for longer

  • Sword could get a more powerful sweeping edge or multiple enemy piercing attack. Axes could get a hammer-like attack that disables shields and weapons for a short time, deals more damage to armor-wearing or buff types of a mob, make a stun attack for NPC mobs.

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    What if you held the attack button, it would decrease not only the attack speed, but also the damage by 1 damage point(0.5 heart)? I agree with the recharged attacks. I could just spam and the damage wouldn't go down at all. There should be a disadvantage for spamming and with the increased attack speed that has been introduced, it wouldn't be that slow like it was before. Parrying should be for swords and I would like to see a new (better) animation for attacking.

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    I think the animation thing is not that neccesary, in fact, the new animation is supposed to be more fitting for fast attacks.

    About the rest, and primarily, charged attacks: Yes please, more benefits are need for tactical fighters (post 1.9 fans),

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    Blast Burner Mojang wants to introduce hold-to-attack for accessibility reasons, I don't think creating disadvantages for spamming or holding the button would work then, rather than that I think using charged attacks and waiting for them should be more rewarding to give players more valid options. In short: make spamclicking look and feel good while charged attacks should primarly punish players who mindlessly spamclick.

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    I have an idea. This should apply to all weapons (swords, axes and tridents). Currently in the snapshots, spam attacking or clicking to attack (120%/100% charged attack) does the base damage, and critical hits can be done by falling/jumping and attacking. This could make it hard and somewhat unbalanced to perform critical hits, because there are some situations where you cannot jump. When you think of it physically, it might make sense, except that you can critically hit mobs above you if you're falling, which doesn't make any sense. Also, there is currently very little reason behind the cool-down (200% charged attack/delay), as it just increases your range and allows the sweeping attack; it’s not really worth waiting. You could just get close enough to attack in less time than if you use the cool-down. By allowing critical hits via the cool-down, players on both PvP and PvE will have a reason to wait before attacking, and critical hits would be less complicated and easier to figure out for new players. The idea of the cool-down being primarily for critical hits was introduced at some point in the combat snapshots and then removed. Re-adding that mechanism would make it possible for everyone to painlessly perform critical hits, and it should be so because the damage caused by sharpness was greatly decreased after 1.9 to encourage critical hits, and making them not easy, but simple to perform, would be great for everyone when it comes to game-play.

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    I also think this would impact the difficulty for PvE players, adding a real cost for dealing more damage and allowing players to perform critical attacks with similar ease. I, for instance, find it frustrating to time the attack while jumping, but eventually as players learn it (which is quite fast), it’s nothing at all (no cost), which is too overpowered. Just hitting an extra button to deal more damage is not something that affects how it goes in-game, and is almost impossible to learn about if you don't look at any sources or tutorials. Critical hits should be simple, accessible and yet a trade-off. Having to wait for increased damage would form a challenge for most survival players, something PvE players want. As for PvP players, they mostly use spam attacks, which became available after the snapshots, so there is nearly no impact. Except if you count that critical hits would be potentially slightly more of a challenge, something I think would make it more exciting and allow more diversity.

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    Just so that it isn't complicated, I think critical hits should be simply via the charged attacks so that we don't have to add special, complicated effects for each weapon when it is 200% charged. I also think spam clicking should still do the same base damage. By the way, holding the attack button creates a penalty of +1 ticks between attacks (as far as my knowledge goes).

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    I think the combat systems like the charged attack work well. I just think that the shield should be nerfed slightly so if you are crouching and you swing your weapon you will unblock for a brief moment like in bedrock edition.