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Charged Strikes could be more impactful

I like charged strikes as they are, they pair well with the melee system, but I still think more could be done with them.

They work well in PVP, but have little use in PVE. The extra reach is interesting, but to regular players, the entire "charged strike" mechanic doesn't make immediate sense. Other than situationally, you don't have much incentive to charge attacks.

I think these changed could be added to flesh them out a bit more;

  • Charged hits could deal more upwards and horizontal knockback, which would pair well with the bonus reach and would allow for a good crowd control option and a good way to start a combo.
  • More enchantments, like Sweeping, could be specifically triggered by charged attacks. I'd like to see something special to happen on charged hits from different weapons; an enchant that increases damage on charged strikes, an Armor Piercing enchant for pickaxes, or 1-2 seconds of slowness applied to targets struck by a charged "Cleaving" axe. Maybe hoes have an enchantment that pulls entities closer on charged strikes, etc.
  • Right now, any attack can be critical if you jump. Maybe critical hits should only happen on a charged hit, that way you have to really invest in the attack to make it deal that extra damage. Or, to avoid balance issues with slower weapons, make charged strikes deal 10% extra base damage.
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    Critical hits being exclusive to charged attacks is a great idea. Critical hits should also deal double damage to compensate.

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    Critical hits should not be exclusive to a charged attack, that would make axes useless.

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    Hey DDZiroWan, But axes have 200% charged attacks, don't they?

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    This idea is great to recompensate charged attacks. (I only talk about the critical hits and the knockback, the third idea may still be discussed)

    You have my vote.

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    I think it'd be good for Critical Attacks to require 200% Charge, though it'd be interesting if Slower Weapons like the Axe didn't need it.

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    Agreed with @RedSol6419, slower weapons would need a buff (or crits would need a buff) if you have to wait to charge. Turns out it's not as simple as "charge to crit".

    Jeb made any attack to be able to crit back in V4 due to an imbalance when crits dealt more damage on charged hits. Slower weapons like Axes and Tridents can't combo as well as Hoes and Swords, so they depend on quick crits to match Sword DPS. By having to wait to properly crit, they were unviable in PVP.

    I think I came up with a pretty good solution, though. By buffing crits to x1.75, modifying charge time from 200% to 80% + 8 ticks, and increasing the base damage of Axes by +1 and attack speed of Tridents by +0.5, this is was it would look like;

    Diamond Axe (Reach of 2.5) :

    • Damage per tick when spamming: 8 damage / 10 ticks = 0.8
    • Damage per tick with perfect charged crits: 14 damage / 16 ticks = 0.875

    Diamond Sword (Reach of 3.0):

    • Damage per tick when spamming: 6 damage /  6.67 ticks = 0.9
    • Damage per tick with perfect charged crits: 10.5 damage / 13 ticks = 0.8

    Trident (Reach of 3.5):

    • Damage per tick when spamming: 7 damage /  8 ticks = 0.875
    • Damage per tick with perfect charged crits: 12.3 damage / 14 ticks = 0.85

    These are the changes that would be needed for crits to be exclusive to charged attacks. Swords would still be the meta, but Tridents and Axes would be serious competitors. What do you guys think?

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    Tabarnaque8507 Your idea is perfect, and as a player who plays frequently on 1.8 servers and 1.16 (or with 1.9/1.11 combat) servers, I can say that it's perfect.

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    Tabarnaque8507 here’s an idea: for every 0.1 seconds of recharge time, the damage of a crit increases by 10%, with base crit damage always starting at +10% damage. (Also, this doesn’t refer to recharge time as amount of time the player recharges the weapon being used, but as attack speed of the weapon in question, You still have to wait.) This means that a sword would have a 40% crit bonus (10% + 30% for the 0.33 sec attack speed) and an axe would have a 60% crit bonus (20% + 50% for the 0.5 sec attack speed)

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    Podríamos usar el sift y click derecho para cargar el daño de nuestro ataque para generarlo a una unidad pero que al hacerlo genere una leve lentitud

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    I think this Idea could work, Upon landing a successful charged hit (as opposed to ones that aren't), the player will receive 1 and a half shanks of Vigor, but upon missing, will lose a shank, making it more important to land those hits.



    As for what Vigor is...: https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/4409234019853-Combat-Mechanics-Vigor

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    Los ataques cargados dependerían del ataque constante al aire del jugador con un arma  para que cuando efectué un ataque contra un oponente efectúe un 10% mas de daño .Para cargar un ataque debería el jugador atacar 5 veces o 6 al aire para tener el arma cargada con un 10% mas de daño