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(20W06A) Ancient Debris is worthless

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    WorseLeek6553 commented
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    It's good that it's rare; a material used to upgrade to the best gear in the game shouldn't be easy to get. Because it's somewhat difficult to obtain, and you use netherite ingots to repair netherite gear and tools, some people might stick with diamond stuff because of the difficulty, thus making diamond not totally obsolete.

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    danielrab commented
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    it's ultra hard to get, but it's better than diamond. this is all the point.

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    Zenkuri commented
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    I do not agree. It should remain super rare! It is used to upgrade diamond tools to be better.

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    CAJ5888 commented
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    Keep it super rare!

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    No, a material better than diamond should be harder to get, especially if it doesn't burn in lava. If you want ancient debris so bad, just dig at Y level 15 in the Nether (though ancient debris can technically spawn anywhere, it's just extremely rare). Note that it usually spawns in loose clusters next to, but not always adjacent to each other, and that you need 4 of them for each diamond tool/armor piece.

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    NullRockbell commented
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    I think that's the ponit, Mojang is taking the risk of changing something that has been in the game almost since the beginning (Diamond gear being the strongest) so it shouldn't bee that easy to change diamond for something more powerfull. And precisely, it's not even that big of a difference besides the fact Netherite doesn't burn on lava. So you are completely free to stick with Diamond if you want. 

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    kinda the point, it supposed to be super rare. diamonds are good enough to get you through the game, netherite is for dedicated people.

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    Personally I would only mine it for the sword, as it adds like 500 durability and an entire damage point to diamond. It barely adds anything to diamond armor, and is super hard to get, plus you lose enchantments when you combine so it's most likely a downgrade even if you have enchanted books because you would lose levels combining them.

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    Scarcity isn't the same as having no value. Without villager trading, Emeralds are rare and we don't say that they are worthless. And diamonds are a rare resource as well, though not as rare as ancient debris or emerald ore, it is rare nonetheless and we still held those at a high value. In the real world we tend to hold things that are more scarce at a higher value, not a lower value. For example, let's say we had a shortage in bread, that shortage would not cause bread to decrease in value, (this can be applied to anything) and let's not just stop there. Things can decrease in value if there is a surplus. Let's apply this to bread again (can also be applied to anything) If there was more bread being produced, and we had even more of it. Not taking into account whether it's cheaper to produce or not. One could argue that bread prices would go down . So I do disagree with the idea that Ancient Debris has little to no worth based on how rare it is. I say that it has high value, taking into account, not just the rarity, but also the purposes in which it serves as well as what it takes to get the item

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    ShinokuMiyah commented
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    "It's worthless 'cause it's rare"

    What kind of logic is that?

    Enchanted apples are rare, but.. does that make them worthless?

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    scmcgowen commented
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    Maybe you just have a bad seed.

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    chuck kalan commented
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    yeah it should stay as it is right now.

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    sgt slghtr101 commented
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    As far as tools and armor are concerned I like it being a rare item...though when it comes to making it into that beautiful block I wish it wasn't so rare

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    Mr Twister commented
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    why should endgame equipment be easy to obtain? 

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    Technodono commented
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    Well the whole point for it is to be rare... the devs probably don't want the value of diamonds taken away from the game so they made the netherite stuff really hard to find to avoid people using netherite all the time. It creates a balance between diamond and debris and makes sure that only more experienced players will be able to find it Plus it actually encourages mining at low y levels and going thru caves in the nether to get materials/ancent debris. I am fine if you don't agree with me but that's my veiw on the ancient debris and no personally I don't think you should be able to get it easily but that's just my opinion

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    Enders Host commented
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    Hmm, I think you just had bad luck. It's not that rare and considering you only need four per item, it's actually pretty easy to obtain enough.

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    20 minutes and you only found three? I mine for hours in the overworld searching for diamonds