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Villager Activities and gamerule "mobGriefing"

Hello! With the new 1.14 Village and Pillage update, we are brought new villager trading and breeding systems.

One thing that must change is that villagers cannot perform activities such as farming or picking up items to breed if gamerule mobGriefing has been switched to false.

Servers with mobGriefing off to prevent things like creepers destroying builds will also prevent villagers from breaking crops. Turning mobGriefing back on will fix this, but arise another problem: mobs can grief.

This is why I think villager activities should have their own gamerule. This will allow servers to have villager breeding and farming without creepers causing destruction.

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    I absolutely agree with this idea. In fact, I was arguing with my friend that we should turn mobGriefing on to allow Villager reproduction, but then he said mobs would be able to destroy buildings which is something we don't want. So, it would definitely be useful if Villagers were excluded from mobGriefing or maybe they could add in a whole new gamerule for Villager interaction instead of having Villagers be a part of mobGriefing.

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    I agree, setting it so creepers don't mess up fancy builds shouldn't also disable a major game function like villager breeding, definitely needs a change.

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    it's kinda dumb that villager activities count as mob griefing :/ i really wish it could be separated as well

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    Agreed. I always had mob griefing set to off because of endermen randomly picking up and placing blocks which i found very annoying, and to a lesser extent creeper explosions, which I hate, but at the same time feels like a major part of minecraft, lol. Im torn on that. But villagers should be completely seperate. Im currently trying to fix a village that was completely wacky because of the world generation (it is the closest one to my current base of operations, which may change due to an insanely high mob spawn rate, even on easy. not sure what is going on there) and it is missing a bunch of professions, plus I'd like a mending villager. I don't like having to have the option on for that x.x

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    I completely agree with this! I have always built villages for villagers even before they became a major part of the game however I have always had mob-griefing off so creepers don’t destroy what I had built for my villagers. Now I think there should be a separate setting for villager functions without having creepers destroy progress made.

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    This also should be changed for sheep since the farms that are now possible in 1.16 do not work with mobGriefing turned off.

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    Being unable to disable Endermen or Creeper destroying things without changing villager gameplay is unreasonable and leads to nearly game-breaking issues. This picture is the side of my mountain base after going AFK for a few hours. You see all the random dirt and grass blocks speckling the terrain? They're stripping the underside of a mountain overhang completely bare and then leaving all these blocks laying everywhere. It destroys the terrain and makes working to protect the natural environment over a larger world without the use of command blocks impossible. This is unacceptable and needs to change as soon as possible.

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    It's 2021, but please make this a thing.

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    This has been an issue since at least 2014, maybe before.  Villagers pulling crops should not be considered griefing.  The very definition of griefing demands that they should not be associated with each other.  This would be a very very , very, simple thing for the developers to fix.  The fact that they havn't shows how little they care.

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    I completely agree with this, and I have to deal with this problem daily. And I only have one solution to this problem as of now. Since I live in a village, my only real option is to have mobGriefing on and run away like a lunatic whenever I see a creeper nearby. Villagers are probably my favorite part about Minecraft so seeing this would definitely be a major improvement! :)

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    I was trying to figure out why my villagers wouldn't pick up items, breed, or farm and I found out that mob griefing affected the ability for villagers to pickup items. The commands should definitely be separate as otherwise the only method to get new villagers without rmob griefing would be to cure zombie villagers.

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    i want it to be different too cas this server of my friend's isnt letting me breed cas of mob greif and tell me to find another village -_-

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    I absolutely agree, the fact that villagers don't have the ability to breed and farm if mob griefing is set to false is pretty frustrating. I can install a plugin to stop creeper explosions while still allowing villagers to farm, but it's an extra step and isn't as easy as just inputting a gamerule. I hope this gets looked into and acted upon in the second part to the 1.17 update or in a future version.

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    I agree too, it just dumb that you cant have villager farms and breeding if you dont want creepers blow up all your shit

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    Two and a half years in and this feedback still hasn't been taken on board.  Could we please have this resolved, Mojang?  It's a huge quality of life design choice for anyone that's building aesthetically pleasing structures within the survival game mode.

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    Suggestions
    /gamerule mobGriefingHostile
    Should include block alteration by Creeper explosion, Enderman pick up and placement, Gast projectile explosion, etc... any randomly spawned mob that causes undesirable destruction with no beneficial result. Would be considered griefing or trolling if done by a player.)

    ' mobGriefingPassive
    Should include Sheep eating grass, Villagers farming, Snow golem snow trail, etc... non-hostile mobs that perform limited and relatively inconsequential "destructive" actions which produce a desirable result, used by "player action" to generate resources (wool, food, snow, etc...)


    ' mobGriefingBoss
    Should include boss mobs with destructive actions. Should be separate from regular hostile mobs for two reasons. First, boss mobs are not randomly spawned. They are intentionally summoned by player action or appear in specific locations that players wouldn't normally build in until after the boss is killed or otherwise pacified.
    Second, capturing and utilizing the Wither to farm certain resources is emergent gameplay. Akin to the passive mobs rule, should be considered "player action".
    Ravagers should be here as well.

    ' mobItemPickup
    Necessary for Villager breeding and Piglin bartering. Players have reasons to intentionally give items to mobs.

    ' farmlandTrampling
    All mobs and players. Especially with how mobs tend to repeatedly climb up on composters and trample adjacent farmland. There are many other ways to convert farmland back to dirt, we don't need trampling.

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    Personally i would propose to turn mobGreifing into creeperGriefing, ghastGriefing, endermanGriefing, sheepGreifing, villagerGriefing, zombieGriefing instead

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    please do this

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    mobGriefing false prevents Villagers from changing blocks which I agree is working as intended.  However, villager breeding should not be tied to mobGriefing rule.  There should be an alternative means to populate village via trade completions.

    Separately, there are those that would like to also have villagers farm without suffering endermen/creeper/boss mob damage.  It would be appropriate to create a mobGriefingVillager rule.

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    Just so yall know for those Java players, a temporary solution is to check out xisumavoid's website and grab the datapack that turns off creeper griefing, and/or ghast and/or enderman this way mobgriefing can be set to true but those mobs wont buggar up ur world