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Heather Shadelight's Expert Mode [mobs, difficulty, AI]

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    John Cena commented
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    This is an insanely good idea, but they could also do :

    - Zombies : There's a ~1% chance that a zombie rides a zombie horse.

    - Illusioners : They can spawn in WoodLand mansions, like evokers or vindicators

    - Giants : At night, Giant Zombies could appear, but these could be pretty rare. They could be x10 stronger than a normal zombie

     

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    Mc Rat commented
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    New Idea for the Expert Difficulty: Torches get extinguished in the rain, if there's no blocks above them. You have to re-lit them with flint and steel.

    I think this would be interesting for early-game survival, since it makes lit-up areas dark again and allows mobs to spawn.

    To avoid this you need to place them in places where they are safe from rainwater and start using new light sources like lanterns.

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    Some of these should be normal mob addons

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    This sounds amazing! I've been getting bored of the usual game and trying to make challenges isn't fun anymore. I really hope this gets into the game because I'm craving a teeth-wrenching challenge!!

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    Loris099 commented
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    Cool, but I think some of these have to be in difficulties. For example I love the idea of the zombie that grab you and you have to move the mouse for free yourself

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    boshygamer32 commented
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    awesome idea! this has my vote! what about a fire breath for blazes that pushes the player back? shields can't block it completly so it will still dealing some damage also guardians needs to be more hostile towards mobs that hits them accidentally just like how skeletons and zombies does also if player can't avoid the continuous beam of the elder guardian it can be blocked with the shield but the shield will break real fast

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    I love this but also wish we could scale it down to an intermediate mode, where mobs aren't effected as much as you have. Some people like to build while trying to survive against extremely overpowered mobs, but it would be difficult for some. This also might make people who play in easy/hard mode will be bullied into playing the expert mode because they don't want to look or feel week So an intermediate mode where all the mobs you listed get 1 buff if you're ideas instead of all. It's just a concern I have is all, but great idea.

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    Kevin Barnes commented
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    This would make Minecraft a lot more interesting. Currently playing on Minecraft Bedrock the hard difficulty is no challenge at all, and feel like the game does not have the difficulty curve for more experienced players.

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    Alex M commented
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    I think not only is this topic “HOSTILE MOBS” territory, but all hostile mobs changes is essentially also a “COMBAT” change, which is always welcome.

    Contrary to popular belief, the 1.8 combat update was a push towards the good direction, but shields especialy coupled with axes are way too overpowered.

    I would LOVE ❤️ to see the above mentioned implemented...
    and also... 📝
    - Zombies could disable shields
    - Different weapons for different creatures. (Right now axes are better than swords against = creepers, skeletons.)

    Finally the most(!) important thing I’d like to see (More than what was written down here or in the main post) is DYNAMIC COMBAT. ⚔️ What i mean by dynamic combat, is that instead of clicking once on your screen to strike, maybe hold down left click >> then drag at an angle >> then release, and the player strikes that way.

    Zombies could have shields, they could block etc. Maybe you could hit legs to slow down enemies.

    Either way I will make a separate post about this dynamic combat. Please take a look at the video game “War of Roses” for this “release mouse button” sword combat, and credit me if you add any of this 😉

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    aniv2345 commented
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    My proposal is that the rare items have a higher chance of being dropped in expert difficulty, to make it a more risk more reward gameplay. It would make it so that the people who play this mode will also have a few things in their favor as well.

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    aniv2345 commented
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    I very much like the idea of some of these, however the Sprining Creeper really scares me, as it should, but the rest, I would like to use. In the settings, it should have a way to disable certain aspects of the expert mode, if you aren't quite an expert yet.

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    aniv2345 commented
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    With the introduction of the lantern, I think that it would be feasible, in this mode, to allow torches to 'go out' over time. 

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    I'm interested in the losing of hostile mobs through hiding. Minecraft occasionally lags for me, and I was curious if target checking could be changed so that the player gives out a notification every two ticks when moving and for a short period afterward. 

    So, rather than all the mobs checking individually per two ticks inside of a radius, each mob has a radius that can accept an impulse from the player that is sent out every two ticks when the player is moving. That would also allow for players to hold still and not be noticed by mobs, thereby escaping from hordes of mobs.

     

    Eventually, this could then allow for the balance change of giving mobs the ability to Sprint after a player.

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    Some Animal commented
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    The loot table is increased so that the reward for killing a more powerful mob is much greater.

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    There's only one problem with this suggestion. How will endermen attack foes in water? Maybe they should pick up and throw blocks at the player if they're in water! I still love this suggestion, and i'm glad it's being considered! :D

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        I have been wanting a mode like this forever! I also think every full moon or something a mob siege should happen where creepers blow up walls and mobs spawn with better gear, effects and tools that allow them to mine to the player. Minecraft on hard mode just isn't hard enough at all. this would also mean having a defensive base would be useful.

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    Drazzark commented
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    I think the hunger should also be the same as hard or something like that, as increasing it any further would definitely slow down the pace and be pretty annoying.

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    Joe Crighton commented
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    I definitely love this idea, I've always felt that MC needed better AI, especially since it's inspired by games like Dwarf Fortress (a game which has infamously in-depth AI)!

    My only criticism is the idea of Zombies grabbing the player, as I don't want a quicktime event in Minecraft, but perhaps that ability could be given to spiders, where they shoot webs that slow you down if you aren't wearing armour.

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    xXnugget25Xx commented
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    I r8 8/8 m8

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    Sierra Hetzel commented
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    Ok so this is a great idea, but what in the world is a beast? Also what should be added, for players who are not allowed to play with undead, should be a game mode that excluded or changes the skin of undead

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    I firmly agree with this, however maybe these advanced mobs shouldn't exist within this one game mode? I believe the mobs should have some smarter capabilities in all difficulties and the only time they actually get harder to deal with is on the harder difficulties. Mobs are your basic mobs on Easy, although they have the added ability to do the advanced path finding and searching for the player. Normal should allow them to jump over gaps and so forth with sprinting with slightly more advanced and smarter path finding. And Hard? Well all of the above post! This is awesome and I would love to see how all of these ideas are implemented in the future.

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    A syakur53 commented
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    in what version will this mode be added?

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    can mojang add a game difficulty into legend

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    i agree to add expert mode

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    Shade Heppner commented
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    Also if creepers could blow up next to structures to allow their hostile friends to get to you that would also provide an extra challenge.

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    I would like some expert mode. Making the AI much more aggressive and tactical, making PvE more challenging. Maybe also making items more rare, drops and ores, forcing a player to constantly be on the move and trading with villagers would server as a better source to get decent gear, cause of the rarity of ores has been increased.

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    catcagames commented
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    I fully support this! I would love a really difficult difficulty to beat the dragon in! This mode would also be really good for PvP and/or minigames and the AI from some of these mobs could possibly be used in other difficulty settings. 

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    Una sugerencia
    Que los zombies y esqueletos estén más chetados de lo normal 👍

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    +1

    i agree with all of these changes expect for the way zombies/drowned can grab you, just make it so drowned push you down like 1 block

    and you should also make the enderman able to build a bridge over the water when your in a lake 

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    Good fit for combat themed update (1.15)