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Add option for legacy combat (1.8 and below)

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    I agreee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    AlliedChief40 commented

    i agree, 1.8 is  better, just add a toggle

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    alexx0563 commented

    Yes

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    Beboy57 commented

    Amazing idea! Why hasn't Mojang added this yet? Using a gamerule would be amazing as then servers that have pvp elements like Hypixel can change it, or flat out PVP servers can use the new blocks.

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    I agree

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    iCHE3T0H commented

    +1

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    R44MM commented

    I think that returning the blockhit with the sword in case you do not have the equipped shield would solve all the pvp problems (yes, only this), the server developers can edit the rest of the mechanics easily, the problem is that they are currently using a 'dirty' simulation of the old pvp adding a shield which has a lot of latency and does not cause the knockback effect that allows combos in addition to the visual discomfort of the shield that covers much of the screen.

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    EdoDaniel commented

    That is what all the pvp community wanted for like 2 years! A gamerule (or something like that) that will switch betwin 1.7 pvp to 1.8 pvp to 1.9 pvp

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    OPsceptile commented

    I think they should make it so that if you do the 1.9 combat you do more damage than with the 1.8 toggle

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    I don't hate 1.9 combat, but it's too controversial. Many servers refuse to update just because of this and miss out on the other stuff.

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    SlyFoxSquad commented

    Yes! Please! I can enjoy the awesome new features like new ocean biomes and blocks AND PVP.

    Also why is my name slyfoxsquad ugg first my sisters change my profile pic now my name....

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    Mitchal01 commented

    I agree definitely. I have no idea why MICROSOFT changed the combat other than for education edition so you don't hear *click click click* all day but that gives no right for them to change it after they gained ownership. Minecraft will NEVER die out im 16 and still playing it i know older people who play but they play it because of a JOB!!! If everyone quit playing minecraft because they hated what microsoft changed about it no one would play it. As an example *I hate to use this but* Gta 4, there is still people that play it because they are either rich or just because you can hack and troll or have fun on it with your friends. So when gta 6 comes out most gta 4 server are probably going to be down and people from gta 5 will play it. My point if your going to make an update why make it a bad update that everyone is going to hate. There has been 52 INDIVIDUAL updates for minecraft including microsoft excluding alpha and beta. 1.8 and 1.7.10 pvp is the **** the 1.8 animations people hate can be change by a mod or with this. Minecraft is a game where people or kids can grow up and have a fun life style. Here in the United states where I live we don't get taught any code in school. Java, php, html, css, javascript, mysql, c, c#, c++, python, ruby, perl, Objective-C, swift. These are languages that are used in EVERYBODY'S day lives. Use a computer lately. you have most likely used AT LEAST half of these. Most people who create plugins are from asia or europe (https://www.spigotmc.org/members/?type=resources) That link shows people with the most plugins created most of them are not from the usa is they are speaking truthfully meaning they have to learn english to code so they have to take their own language and english to make a difference so people who are doing this are helping the minecraft community to make a difference.

    (http://minecraftservers.org/ sensor servers are changed and time zones so info might be different)

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    20026 people on 20 servers thats an average of 1000 per server

    Because of the new update servers are losing people because the owners are forced to update to newer versions because plugins or mods are no longer updated for earlier versions. if we had regular pvp (1.7.* or 1.8.*   without shield (prefered) or with plugins would be maintained more often and everyone would be happy.

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    REEEALYUNGUN commented

    I agree, new combat is too slow paced for multiplayer and lowers the skill ceiling

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    minecraft5994 commented

    The reality is that Minecraft will not remove the newer versions from servers, but they should at least let us have compatibility with newer versions.

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    I agree

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    I Agree

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    MrSamuli commented

    Can I still comment on this one?

    By old combat, I would mean reworking the regeneration system (with food), shields, blocking, hitboxes, attackCooldown and (not really that important) making the Notch apples craftable again! (yay!)

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    Alpppp commented

    If I'm honest, Minecraft Pvp is based around being quick and fun; adding attack timers were a mistake. 

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    WALNUTZGAMING commented

    o/ i love 1.8 pvp and would like to have it on the newer versions and more blocks can be added into the servers 

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    coolcodeman14 commented

    I agree the devs of Minecraft made everything more confusing and that is what I would like the 1.8 return so players could actually have fun instead of waiting to click I hate the 1.9 and above combat system, I think it would be better to revert the combat to 1.8 and below 

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    James Douglas commented

    The new combat system may make more sense, but more people like the old version. All popular PvP Minecraft servers like Hypixel and Mineplex use old PvP. And there is less skill with the new system anyway. You can no longer kill people with better stuff than you, you can no longer win 1v2s, and if you have a lot of healing you automatically win the fight. This is very unbalanced. PvP is no longer intense or interesting, just hit + block with shield, then repeat.

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    Captain Kcaz commented

    This is pathetic, too many people want the old combat. Why does minecraft's combat HAVE TO STAY THE SAME?!?!?!? Minecraft updated FROM that, pvp should not be treated as a joke with spamming, technically you can STILL SPAM IN THE NEW VERSION. Servers shouldn't encourage the old combat, think of real life here, swords are heavy and can't spam so give me a GOOD REASON WHY THEY SHOULD KEEP THE OLD, the world isn't about keeping the old, it's about progressing to the new!! It's VERY VERY sad that you want something that doesn't even make sense, the Mojang team DID SAY that combat will get an overhaul, so please play the new versions and get used to the combat because they are going to change everything for the better and 1.8's combat is not better. Saying that 1.14 should have old combat is like saying minecraft should be living in the old days, please forget the old days and love the new, because 1.9 changed more than JUST THE COMBAT.

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    Rankperd commented

    I agree

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    I agree

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    Maj Zore commented

    yes maybe               /gamerule legacycombat [true/false]

    or             /gamerule swingcooldown [true/false]

    i could go on but I really like those two

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    James Douglas commented

    I prefer:

    /gamerule cooldownTimer (true/false)

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    This is the best idea, indeed it would allow server managers who like PvP 1.12 to keep it as 1.7 / 1.8 players to put back as before because they love this version.

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    LuisBarretoHD commented

    The old combat system was better to manage. As the Combat Update came, it became like a turn by turn fight, which would take so long in average. Heck, even the Ender Dragon fight became easier, since you get iron bars or obsidian, get like 16 enderpearls, full diamond with protection 4 and feather falling and the rest of your inventory with beds and blocks so you don't insta-die by the explosion.

    If the old system was an option, I would enjoy the game more as how I enjoyed playing modded 1.7.10 Minecraft.

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    I wish to. We deserve to play with ghe new items blocks but we dont like this combat way in pvp or this game play it is not excting like before.. Please :)

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    The new combat ruined the PvP community!